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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 63 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"you can't just abolish the police"

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My bad. I meant to say:

“yOu cAnT jUsT aBoLiSh ThE pOlIcE”

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

You can with that attitude

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Then why don't I hear them on the radio anymore?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Don't Stand So Close to Me.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The formation of the department of Homeland security was extremely controversial. Most Democrats didn't want to pass it since it is functionally an army with no oversight that reports to the president, the aspiring war criminal George W. Bush. But then letters filled with anthrax went out to several legislators, including Patrick Lehey and Tom Daschle. 5 people died and 17 were injured. Dems buttoned that bill up, in a panic, real fucking quick.

Later after the department was created the source of the anthrax was determined. The source of the anthrax was a bunker that Saddam Hussein had been hiding in.

Nah just kidding, it came from an Army base in Ft. Dietrich, Maryland.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No bro a lawsuit will magically fix this trust me bro. One more scandal bro. The files bro. Trust me bro one more SLAMMING in their own news papers and we defeat facism.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

yeah release the Epstein files and all, but let's not pretend that it would make a single difference to anything if they were full of hard evidence of Trump and his whole cabinet assaulting an entire teen beauty pageant.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago

Literally everyone already knows he's a rapist. But somehow YET ANOTHER example is supposed to make a difference? Nah bruh.

[–] FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So the right propped these goons as heroes and the left made them out to be monsters. Now it turns out they are basically redneck gestapo and I'm supposed to be mad at... Who? Why? Are we pretending that the right was blameless here and that it is not directly their fault? That an 'overreaction' that turned out to basically be right is to blame?

What the fuck is being said here?

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That liberalism enables fascism.

Liberalism has as a core tenet rule-of-law and preserving the organs of bourgeois democracy.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] piefood@feddit.online 28 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I think your meme is missing a scene. The one where the Liberals clean and load the gun, then hand it over to the Fascists.

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[–] rivvvver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The absolute minimum that should be done should be to split ICE up into the original agencies that were merged into it in 2002. Originally, the border policing and customs, and the immigration enforcement were two separate agencies. Customs was controlled by the Treasury, immigration was controlled by the Justice Department.

Basically, undo everything that was done in response to 9/11 and dissolve the Department of Homeland Security.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (29 children)

What liberals opposed this? It’s weird that liberal is now a word Americans use to mean whoever they dislike. I know the right loves ICE but what liberal does?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

From Wikipedia:

Many Democratic politicians, such as Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and former Vice President Kamala Harris of California, believe that ICE should be reformed rather than abolished. Harris stated that Democrats should "critically re-examine ICE" and "think about starting from scratch" with American immigration policy, while Senator Bernie Sanders stated that Democrats should instead encourage Trump to work with them on "a national program which deals with this serious issue."

  • That was about 7 years ago.
  • Even Bernie opposed abolishing ICE.

He used the word absolutely the correct way.

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[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 22 points 9 months ago

Literally every single democratic politician in office

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 9 months ago (18 children)

Obama and Biden had full, 100% unchecked authority to shut down ICE but they didn’t.

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[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 11 points 9 months ago (34 children)
[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (7 children)

The American Immigration Council:

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/still-no-action-taken-complaints-against-border-patrol-agents-continue-go-unanswered/

Behind The Bastards episodes on Border Patrol (including the complaint it has no one overseeing or restricting it):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdStIvC8WeE

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