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  • Governor Newsom's strategy ultimately will rest with voters

  • California Democrats aim to finish legislative action by Friday

  • Trump-backed Texas plan nears enactment as foes threaten to sue


Aug 21 (Reuters) - The California Senate on Thursday was set to act on newly drawn political maps aimed at giving Democrats five more seats in Congress, countering a partisan advantage President Donald Trump hopes to gain from a Republican redistricting plan in Texas.

California Democrats, led by Governor Gavin Newsom, are pushing to achieve fast-track passage of their redistricting effort in the Sacramento statehouse by Friday, just in time to place it on the ballot for a special election on November 4.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (4 children)

This is fighting fire with fire.

Dems need to start punching the bully back twice as hard, but I'm still not fully convinced they have the media landscape to overcome the false portrayal right wing media will paint this with, or if they can even get out of their own way given the stranglehold Israel has on the party.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately it's not, Newsom wants to add 5 blue seats to match what Texas is doing, that's breaking even and it keeps the status quo as it is now, which is already unbalanced and leans hard right.
If he actually wanted to fight back he'd be going for every blue seat he can.
Even if other blue states follow suite it won't be enough, they need to go nuclear with it.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 8 months ago

The consensus in another thread seemed to be that if CA went for more, that opened up the possibility for a court to say that California's move was bad but TX's was still Kosher.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

They could go 100% of districts being blue according to this:

It really sucks because RCV and proportional representation (using super districts) would solve so many problems—especially lesser of two evils voting. But is it better at this point to have as little MAGA representation as possible?

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They could go 100% of districts being blue

The plan ultimately has to be approved by voters, who will have to live with the new districts—and if it reaches its partisan quota by creating spaghettified districts that can’t meaningfully represent local issues, voters will be more reluctant.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Texas doesn’t give a fuck about any of that.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What Newsom can and can’t do is constrained by California voters, not by Texas.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, of course. Maybe there are enough California voters outraged by Texas’s bullshit to give the oaky to authorize a full-blue plan for California.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There won't be. California isn't as blue as everyone thinks. And most Californian voters aren't aware enough of what the rest of the country is doing to understand why Newsom would be turning back a democratic anti-gerrymandering law.

[–] habitualTartare@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

It's a slippery slope before nearly every state follows suit. The chain reaction isn't going to lead to more democratically elected candidates.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

overcome the false portrayal right wing media will paint this with

Yep, the political mailers have already been sent out saying this will be the death of democracy in California.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This is fighting ~~fire~~ election manipulation with ~~fire.~~ election manipulation

Fixed it for you. Two wrongs don't make a right and both major parties taking away the agency of voters and anything approaching a fair chance for third party and independent candidates doesn't fix democracy.

Dems need to start punching the bully back twice as hard

No. The mud wrestling with a pig analogy applies here.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

How's all that going high working out, Michelle?

And I guess you shouldn't reciprocate a punch if I punch you in the face?

Let's also be abundantly clear, here:

  • (1) This is blow-for-blow response that seeks to maintain the baseline state of the electorate; don't blame California for trying to counteract what Texas is corrupting.

  • (2) This legislative maneuver for which voters will have the final say on in California (unlike in Texas, if I understand correctly) has a baked-in expiration time, timed with the next census.