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I never got the steam deck comparison.
It's like comparing different leagues, classes or whatever and then additionally apples and oranges.
Yes, first off, of course the steam deck is far more powerful than the switch. For the price and used hardware it better be! That's a moot point basically, I could also argue that a >2k€ mobile should be more powerful than a <200€ one. Also, the switch literally is a mobile while the steam deck more of a PC anyhow, which again is a more powerful platform. I'm not going into energy usage though.
The other point is that the steam deck is a pc with a console frontend and that the switch is a console. One is a locked down system (with hard specs) and the other - Well, a pc.
That makes neither better or worse but it depends on your requirements. I love my PCs but sometimes I just want stuff to work and be one packaged experience. And thats where consoles shine. Example: I've played steredenn on switch but never got the controls to work on steam deck, although it's a Linux version even.
The point being. It's fine to like the steam deck over the switch. But it's not comparable however crappy the switch might be.
I get what you're trying to say but I really disagree. You can compare the two because they're offering the same basic premise. The ability to play video games in a handheld form. Of course the price is different. Of course the capabilities are different. Of course the power of the two machines are different. That's a given. They're two different pieces of technology. We compare technology based off of what they're offering. These two machines are offering the same thing. The ability to play video games in a handheld form. In what world is anything that's offering the same thing as another thing not up for comparison?
For me the Steam Deck made the Switch a redundant device. You can compare them apples to apples. Store experience? Steam Deck wipes the floor with the Switch. We all know the Switch has a horrible store experience. Online capabilities? Steam Deck. Don't have to pay $20 a year to use online capabilities with my Deck. Form factor? Steam Deck is a big bulky machine but it's more ergonomically better suited for me because I'm not as scrunched up like I was holding the Switch lite. OG Switch may have a better experience there. Games they offer? The only thing a Switch offers that separates the two in favor of the Switch is the ability to play Nintendo games natively without jumping through hoops.
You can say the Switch is a console and the Steam Deck is a PC all you want. That's factually true. You can even compare that. They're both computers with a processor, a fan, some form of gpu. One offers a closed off user experience bound to the rules and end user license agreement of a single company. The other is an open full blown PC experience where the makers of the machine say do whatever you want to it. Because you can do whatever you want to a Steam Deck you may run into problems with it that you wouldn't otherwise experience on a console. That's a fine and fair comparison.
To say they aren't comparable is shielding the Switch from criticism. It's doing a disservice to anybody who is looking for a handheld device to play video games because you're hiding information from a perspective buyer who may have a certain set of requirements pertaining to purchasing such a device.
Thanks for the great discussion. I am fine with everything but the last paragraph.
But first, let's respectfully still disagree in general. However I think we're just expressing it differently.
So, from a pc perspective the steam deck is obsolete, since my 14" notebook is a far better device to me. And it's highly mobile too. Thing is, this point is basically going nowhere since with price and over all sectors there will always be a (technologically objective) better device. Why don't we all buy pro tools? Well price for one. It's always about the ratio. Anyhow, just for clarity, I'm really fine with disagreeing here.
Regarding the last paragraph: just recently I had a talk with someone interested and she was looking for a mobile device. I told her about switch and also steam deck, showed both and highlighted the experience differences but as the main point I told her she at the single most important thing needs to look into the game libraries which suits her otherwise she will have a paperweight. It is always and has always been the software that sells the systems.
The perspective buyer wants to play a game and deserves the best experience. On whatever current or future system that might be, and has to weigh in on the price he wants to spend. And that's what I would recommend.
Yeah no problem. I think I know where the disagreement is stemming from. I may be wrong so you can correct me, but you look at the Steam Deck as a handheld PC competing with other PCs. I look at the Steam Deck as a handheld PC competing with other handhelds in general. That's the disagreement. It's a fine line because neither one is really right or wrong. We fall on the opposite sides. I have a PC that is much more powerful than the Steam Deck. That didn't make the Steam Deck obsolete to me. I wasn't looking at the Steam Deck as a PC replacement.
My last paragraph and your actions with your friend prove my point. If they weren't comparable you wouldn't bring them up together. I do agree with you that software sells the system. That's why I bought a Switch to begin with.