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Sounds like NGOs taking care of what should be the core job of any governmean - ensuring that people are supplied with stuff covering basic needs, like food.

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[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We drive on electricity from our own solar panels, and we are not contributing to the fuel crisis with our house whatsoever.

Well, I am riding a bike. Does that give me the right to piss on your lawn? I think no.

Regarding the fuel and carbon stuff, we are all in this crisis that means we need to invent a sustainable way of living. Like travelers on a sinking boat, we should all try hard to keep it afloat.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 0 points 8 hours ago

Regarding the fuel and carbon stuff, we are all in this crisis that means we need to invent a sustainable way of living. Like travelers on a sinking boat, we should all try hard to keep it afloat.

Which is not banning private jets and slowing down ICE cars. The global contribution to polllution of cars is about 70%, the one of the aviation trnasportation is 2% (there are about 100.000 fly a day) and I'd say that in this 2% the private jets are a really small number of the total, so banning private jets maybe give you a 0.05%, not worth the trouble (even if everything helps of course).

Lowering the speed of ICE cars don't really help, I am not that sure that more time on the road at a lower speed produce less pollution. Safety is another question but you have not it by lowering only the ICE cars (it helps of course)

A better solution would be to mandate working from home for everyone who can, far less car on the roads.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

If you are riding a bike you aren't really helping, but maybe you mean bicycle? Bike can also mean motorbike.
So how would you feel it was justified if you were only allowed to drive 10-15 km/h on your bicycle, to help solve the oil crisis? Obviously it would have zero effect, and be completely moronic.
In the exact same way it is moronic to slow down EV traffic to save fuel, it is on the contrary necessary to stimulate people to switch to EV even faster, to save more on fossil fuels.

And how the fuck has it got anything to do with pissing on anyone's lawn? That's a completely moronic argument that doesn't make the least bit of sense.

we should all try hard to keep it afloat.

And how are we not doing that, investing almost all our money to use sustainable energy?
Why do you want to punish the people who actually went in 100% to use renewable energy, instead of putting the limitations on the cars that use fossil fuel?

Go piss in a corner, you apparently want to.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So how would you feel it was justified if you were only allowed to drive 10-15 km/h on your bicycle, to help solve the oil crisis?

The thing is that when I use a bicycle, I do not put a burden on other people, or the community, or expose others to deadly risks. But you do when you drive a car, and that gives society the right to restrict its use, for example in terms of speed. Even when your car is electric, it exposes others to risk of accidents, particulate matter that causes pulmonary problems, dissuades others from using a bicycle in the city, and so on.

And apart from that, I wouldn't participate in online discussions where I get the impression that people are trolling. It is interesting how often that happens when the discussion comes to things that might even slightly affect the interests of the car industry or the fossil industry. It is as if these industries know that they cannot win any reasonable and rational discussion, and resort to astroturfing and trolling instead. Just to make you aware of these patterns.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

But you do when you drive a car,

OK, but I explicitly stated that I did not object to limitations based on safety. But that a very different debate.
Also these limitations are for high speed roads and have nothing to do with city traffic.

And apart from that, I wouldn’t participate in online discussions where I get the impression that people are trolling.

You are CLEARLY the troll here, arguing besides the point, and being contrarian.