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[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

"A medical examiner’s report found that Perry died from the acute effects of ketamine, a surgical anesthetic, and drowning was a secondary cause."

I know you're getting disliked, but I feel like I have to agree with you. How the fuck is drowning a secondary cause of death? The Ketamine definitely could have K-holed him and made him drown, which I guess you could say the Ketamine killed him in that way, but in reality, it seems silly to say anything other than he just drowned.

If somebody is drunk driving and crashes and kills themself, I don't think we'd report alcohol toxicity as the primary cause of death.

Not to be unnecessarily mean to the dead guy, but you have to be pretty stupid to do a large amount of a drug that is very well known to make you pretty much unconscious while in a body of water.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

And yet in your example we could easily cite and convict the bartender who kept serving him.

Thanks for proving the point masterfully.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

He didn't die because of the coma, he died of starvation! Because he couldn't eat, because he was in a coma.

Same when you have AIDS, you don't die of AIDS, you die of the smaller infections that would never have killed you if you didn't have AIDS in the first place, we all know it's AIDS that killed you. Doctors aren't dumb, they know that the cause is the drug that put him in the state that caused him to drown. He wouldn't have drowned without the drug. That's why drowning is a secondary cause, the drug is still the first. Like when you get drunk and pass out in a puddle and drown, the cause of death is alcohol, by means of drowning.

If somebody is drunk driving and crashes and kills themself, I don't think we'd report alcohol toxicity as the primary cause of death.

It is literally drunk driving. Well, crashing while under the influence.

Not to be unnecessarily mean to the dead guy, but you have to be pretty stupid to do a large amount of a drug that is very well known to make you pretty much unconscious while in a body of water.

I see you have no concept of addiction.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago