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[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

So the counselor got a reduced sentence for being the first one to flip. Thank god he is very sorry for the killing!

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 18 points 1 day ago

My drug counselors sucked, not a single one gave me any drugs. 0/10

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the drug wasn’t adulterated or fake, this should not be a charge.

People who do drugs know the risks, and are expected to behave safely. I’d never fucking k-hole around any body of water. Sorry Mathew, but that was a dumb move and you knew it.

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The doctor prescribed ketamine to him unnecessarily with the intention of getting him addicted and charged him an exorbitant markup as I recall. I don't think this was Mathew's fault. I could be wrong, I haven't looked into it in a while.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 22 hours ago

I could be misremembering, but wasn't it after all of his other sources cut him off because he wanted too much? I think this was the only person willing to do it, and charged him a ton for it.

That said, doing ketamine in a bathtub is real dumb.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If she’d run him over with her car or raped him, no big deal. But drugs! Drugs are bad, or something, idk.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Drugs are bad mmm'kay. You shouldn't do drugs mmm'kay.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

What’s your point

Guy killed a guy, gets jail

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

my point is that jail won't solve anything.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh, in this case it will. It will stop a corrupt guy who makes money out of distributing drugs of dubious origin under the guise of safe recreational use for recovery purposes, from further putting others at risk. For a drug counselor it should be obvious that you should not distribute drugs to addicts under (almost) no circumstance.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works -3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Jail isn't what's doing that, revoking his license does. The jail time is just an added slap on the wrist to make the people close to Perry feel better (which is absurd considering a guy literally died, retribution doesn't change that.) It doesn't actually solve anything.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Of course, drug dealers, famously reticent to distributing drugs without license.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

That's ignoring the point. Retributive justice is inherently reactive. It doesn't improve upon any of the circumstances or motivations leading to someone committing a crime, thereby limiting it to a response only after it happens. Criminals don't commit crimes simply because they were "born that way". They do it because their life experiences led them to either a) believing they had to commit the crime to improve their situation, b) believing it's justifiable in their own warped sense of right and wrong, or c) severe mental illness. There's nothing in those causes that can't be accounted for or treated beforehand to prevent the act from occurring at all. All jail time is doing is putting them in a pressure cooker that will inevitably lead to the people sentenced being even further handicapped in their ability to function in society.

Mind you I'm not against separating criminals from society for an appropriate amount of time entirely. It's just that if the primary motivation with their sentence is punishment, you shouldn't expect anything greater than a neutral outcome.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

Which is why we won't jail any drug dealers anywhere, or any criminal, for that matter, as it doesn't solve anything.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I doubt he'd make this kind of misstep again, jail or no.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

It was not a misstep. He gave ketamine to Perry in the first place in order to get him hooked on it while counseling about his addiction with other drugs. He is not a poor repentant fellow who made a honest mistake. He is a corrupt health staff member that, without the proper behavior correctional support, would probably do it again if given the chance.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call the American prison system correctional support

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Neither would I, hence the qualifiers. Doesn't change the argument though.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

so putting this person in jail does no good.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You... Completely ignore why this person wouldn't do it again. If there is no punishment then why wouldn't they?

This whole argument is stupid honestly. Stop being disingenuous.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

I think most people would feel pretty bad about contributing to someone's death, and punishing them doesn't change anything

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -2 points 15 hours ago

Perry killed himself