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Bread and circuses. The biggest difference is we tend to riot after our team wins. 🤷♂️ ‘Murica.
Honestly, the US doesn't have anything that even resembles hooliganism, let alone the fucking insanity of Ultras. The occasional overly enthusiastic celebration after a team win sure maybe minor damage to like a streetlamp or a couple broken windows; when was the last time fans of the losing team were murdered while it was happening?
Like can you imagine the outrage in the US if people tried to pull this shit at the superbowl?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/what-we-know-about-the-shooting-near-the-kansas-city-chiefs-parade
I agree the US doesn’t produce hooliganism, that was my point. We unfortunately translate the vibe in our own way that ends up much worse.
The one incident doesn't mean it's overall "much worse".
You’re arguing both sides when it’s convenient. In one response the country is full of shitty fans trying to scapegoat a single incident, in another example eight kids getting injured isn’t “much worse” overall. What are you even trying to prove, that non-American hooliganism and violence is somehow more nobly hooliganistic and violent because it’s non-American? A bunch of dipshits ransacking their town because their favorite sports team won or lost is still a bunch of dipshits ransacking their town. By all means, kill each other over a game if that’s how invested you both are, but don’t drag those uninvolved into your shenanigans.
The person you're arguing with is a trump supporting republican shill, I wouldn't pay much attention to them. They do not know how to debate our discuss in good faith
That's not arguing "both sides". I never said the "country is full of shitty fans" I said every fanbase has SOME shitty fans. The vast majority are normal people who just enjoy sports.
My point is consistent. In either case, smaller incidents shouldn't be considered worse than the much more frequent and widespread hooliganism seen around the world.
I'm not trying to "prove" anything. Just pointing out that your singular example is not a legit comparison to the historical violence of hooliganism in other countries. It is certainly not proof that that level of hooliganism exists in the US or is somehow worse in the US.
No response to point three?