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Do you (or i) even understand what is a western marxist? Also about china (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 3 days ago by salim@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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I first heard about it through Gabriel rockhill when he was invited in the deprogram, then i kept listening to other videos he made on the topic, i didn't read his or lusordo's books unfortunately, but I think the idea is clear enough for me (maybe)

Basically it includes every left leaning person in the west that poses as marxists (or anticapitalists) but act anticommunist and pro western, they're also revisionists replacing dialectical materialism with bourgeois science and bougeois ideologies,

The first time I noticed the usage of that term outside of Rockhill, was in an Instagram reel about China, then in a horrible red pen video that is also about China, it was so weird for me bc the usage was empty of all substance,

It feels like it's used to shame people about thinking that China is revisionist more than actually serve as a valid argument, and doesn't correlate with the actual western marxist types like zizek or varoufakis,

It quickly became synonym to Ultra-leftist or chauvinist

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[–] salim@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel like ultra+chavinistic usage of the word takes away the precision of the word, This comment explains it more than I can

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 days ago

From everything I've heard about him, Gabriel Rockhill is doing good work and has good research behind what he says. I did read Commiejones' comment before posting my own and wrote mine anyway as kind of an additional thing. The notion of the compatible left may contain the "western marxist" in the meaning I'm using here, but I don't think it's the entirety of it. In any case, phrases can have multiple meanings and manage alright that way.

I'm unconvinced that the meaning I described takes anything away from understanding. I would need to hear more on why. A country like the US or Britain, for example, does have distinct "geographical tendencies" owed to hundreds of years of colonialism and subsequent imperialism. I would argue the use of the term I'm describing is more precise than compatible left, not less, and does not take away from the value of compatible left, but is more like a subset of it. For an example of why, not everyone who claims to be on the left even claims to be a marxist in the first place.