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During cabin service which usually is the beginning and end of the flight, I’ll have it up. But it’s reclined while I’m watching the screen or sleeping. Person behind me can adjust, much like I adjust.
It’s a part of the plane. We all know the seat pitch is tight. We all know that the recline feature is there. If it bothers you, book the emergency row, fly first class, or don’t fly.
The way I look at it, it's a shared resource. You are just as "entitled" to the space as the person behind you.
If I need the space, I will try and use it. But, I will move back slowly, and stop if I meet any resistance. There is nothing worse than having someone slam their seat back into your laptop (or worse, onto your knees....)
The only way I have ever been able to sleep on a plane is to put my head on the tray table in front…I can tell you that having someone slam their seat back into your head is worse! I really wish people would just take a quick look behind them before moving their seat back :(
That’s a fair approach, and I was recently on a plane with someone who was all legs and over 6’ (Denmark, wow) and I would have negotiated the situation in that case - but I’d argue they should get priority on the bulkheads or emergency row with nobody in front.
But we don’t get priority on seats that fit. We used to but now airlines upcharge everything. Even if you can afford paying extra fees, they go fast: I have rarely seen them available.
FYI - on many planes the bulkhead isn’t even beneficial for tall people. The thing is it’s a flat wall. Even though there’s more room overall, there may be no place for feet/legs. Normal seats are much closer together, but there can be more room for your feet under the seat in front
That's a very grounded and reasonable take.
It's like $10 extra for the row with no one in front of you.
I've taken dozens of flights and never once have the upgraded seats only cost $10. A basic ass drink costs more than $10.
You all getting ripped off wherever you're from lol
I'm in the US. Where are you from?
Australia, people here don't care so much about these minor flying details so maybe not much demand for fancy seating
Depends on the airline, and that's definitely not first class which was the proposal.
You don't need to fly first class though, you don't even need to fly business
Okay, but that wasn't the proposal I was snarkly replying to.
You might look at airline fees again. I’ve typically seen $50 or more. Even worse, since airlines now charge for everything, if I want both legroom and for my family to sit together, there are times when it would double my ticket price
That's a bit rough. What airlines are charging >$50?
Lowest fair available:
Lowest fair available where you can select a seat with extra leg room:
And that $459 USD difference is only an 8 hour flight. For an 11 hour flight you can expect that to be greater.
Why is it so expensive there? Are there other significant differences between those tickets? Over here you just book your flight and then on the seat picker click a row with no one in front of you, pay the $20 or whatever the premium is for that row
So, just like you adjust to more room and comfort, the person behind you should adjust to less room, less comfort for your entitlement? Do you really see them the same?
Is it just me or does this come off as entitled and rude?
I bring it up 'cos you're forcing your choices onto the person behind you... But you've probably got the decency to ask first or some polite way to deal with?
As someone who's 6'3, I do find it entitled and rude. When people in front of me do this, it crushes my knees, so I repay the favor by constantly shifting my legs and pushing back into their seat. If I need to use the bathroom, I may also grab and pull hard on their headrest as leverage when standing up. If you want to recline and lounge on a plane then you should pay extra for first class. I just want the space provided for me and nothing more. I personally think they should remove the recline feature if they're going to pack us in like sardines.