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The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

― John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

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[–] gedfromgont@piefed.ca 37 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Sorry, I find it hard to believe that these bananas are not instead sold slightly cheaper for uses where the looks don't matter. E.g. for processing into foods where they essentially just get mashed, like yogurts with banana taste or whatever there is. Also selling them to Zoos as I am sure animals don't care either. Is that really not financially viable?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

The scale of demand at zoos is nowhere near the scale of waste. Banana flavoring may be cheaper to produce chemically than shipping real bananas.

Food waste at production is a very real thing.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Find it hard to believe all you want. Go watch the documentary showing that it’s happening.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I saw it with my own eyes. There were huge piles of bananas in between plantations in one of the biggest banana producing countries here in South America.

I picked through them and salvaged a few.

Probably many are sold to pig farms, but there were still huge piles just rotting on the side of the highway

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why don't people just pick them up?

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Plantations are pretty far from cities

And the locals that live near the plantations all have their own banana grass

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

But why dump bananas? Why not sell everything?

Besides, if this were the case, I'd rent a truck just to steal bananas every day.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago

Probably is, there just isn't enough demand in those areas to use all of it.

There's still hungry people all over the world though. Disposing of food at this scale should be a crime.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How often do you eat something commercially produced and banana flavored with real banana compared to eating an actual banana (or even seeing the products in the store, if you’re not a banana person), though? If that were a viable use for the waste, it would be like 40:60 (because zoo populations are insignificant compared to humans). For me, it’s about 5:95, and that’s only because I like Bananenweizen.

[–] kartoffelsaft@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Banana pudding, banana bread (storebought), strawberry banana V8, banana chips? I don't eat a lot of bananas so maybe I'm an outlier but I could see my banana intake being over half non-photogenic from the above listed.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, it was a totally genuine question, I don’t know what the average is. Banana bread and twinkies occurred to me (but tbh, I suspect most banana bread consumed is homemade and twinkies are probably artificially flavored), but the others didn’t, because I’m too cheap to buy most of those. No idea if I’m an outlier either.

[–] gedfromgont@piefed.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I guess it is also cheaper to get artificial flavour instead, bit sad.