Russians are simultaneously more and less stupid than they seem to be at the same time. They are really run by the intelligence services, and they often "test narratives" to see how messaging goes over with the populations. They use deliberate 'repeaters', messengers and role players within their sociey to gague themes to try and advance their goals. You see public figures following their scripts consistently, from froth-mouthed apocalyptic lunatics like Solovyev and Medvedev threatening to end the world, down to malcontent grunt Z-Bloggers like Girkin muttering tactical level failures, acting as a release valve for the failings of the state 'not going far enough'. The ones who are allowed to speak on an ongoing basis are sanctioned to do so, for reasons that make sense to the FSB.
Until recently, any public talk of even ACKNOWLEDGING, much less ending the SMO/ aka "War" would get you locked up for discrediting the army. Now, they are starting to seep out war-ending off-ramp strategies. This is the first time I've seen one around the idea that the war should be stopped "for the good of the economy". That sounds more high minded than verboten military or moral alternatives like "we're losing" or "it's the humane thing to do". At any rate, it's at least tolerated public dialogue that explicitly talks of ending the war. None of these narrative tests are accidental - some are outbursts, where the messager is locked up or killed - but this is different in that it's from a named public figure.
Having them say "it's for the good of the economy" allows them to at least try to avoid the humiliation of a completely stalled front that they have been unable to move substantially for nearly two years. It ignores their invasion's absolute failure, doesn't acknowledge that maybe little brother ukraine isn't an inherently inferior race, or that the entire country ackshually belongs to Rusia, because - reasons - and doesn't have a right to exist. It doesn't even mention NATO as the REAL reason why they aren't vacationing in Kyiv today.
It's all a colossal tragedy, of course. But putting that aside - it's both funny and somewhat pathetic that this is where they're at more than four years in having squandered their entire soviet inhertiance on a petty 20th century revenge project led by an overpromoted gangster ghoul. But - it's also a good thing that they're openly talking about how to exit an aggressive war of invasion while being WELL short of their goals of conquest.
Will be interesting to see if this "for the economy" theme persists as a face-saving tactic. What do you think?
Who knew war is expensive? /s
That being said, I'll take it with a grain of salt given the source, and while it's still "vaguely prominent Russian said...".
no doubt. there's only one man whose opinion really matters there, and even he has some incentives to consider ANY kind of settlement. More on that later.
I'm just suggesting that they test narratives - just saying something like this would have been somehwere beteen blasphemous and suicide just a couple of months ago. Anything that is said and tolerated should be assumed to be a "test" of the public's reaction.
Even Pootz would probably like the war to end and be able to keep Donbas and Crimea at this point. Probably. And that's not to say he'll get it, or that they deserve it. But it's probably their baseline ask. It gets said a lot that he's a dead man as soon as the war ends. Well, he's also probably a dead man if the war doesn't conclude with some kind of prize this year too.
He doesn't have great options, and though he would like us to think of him as a chess player, he's really a poker player who bluffs all the time counting on others not being willing to suffer very much. You know - a bully. In this case, he reached too far, Ukrainians have a very strong tolerance for suffering, when the alternative is genocide and enslavement again. His idiotic hubris means he can only double down and escalate, lo and behold, you're 4 and a half years into a 3 day triumph with no happy way to exit.
All that to say - however we got here, it's extraordinary that we're now where Russia is stalled and asking for peace, while Ukraine is deciding the best path forward.