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How does the working class collectively make decisions that affect everyone?
Wouldn't they need some form of delegates representing them?
Cause those would also be politicians.
No, it wouldn't. The difference vs someone appointed as a delegate vs a politician is that the group can recall a delegate that is not representing them whereas politicians are on set terms (for the most part).
direct democracy
Twitch plays geopolitics.
better to have a messy democratic system than an orderly fascistic one
Who decides which voting method to use?
everyone
lol
I wouldn't be loling. They turned your joke against you.
Monkey paw curls
Congratulations, water now contains ivermectin instead of flouride.
the majority of even americans still support fluoride in the water, despite everything. there is a relatively small minority ruining the country due to representative democracy. heck, a majority oppose aid to israel and support medicare for all. direct democracy would make the US an incredibly better country
You're restricting your thinking to being solely within the current political system.
Direct democracies exist as an antidote to the problem of corrupt "representatives" and politicians; replacing them instead with delegates who can only communicate goals and have no political power to enforce them— that power remains with the people within a direct democracy.
So how do people in a direct democracy decide for example whether to defend their country militarily against an attacker, and how, or sue for peace?
Do you publish all your military intel on the attacker and the strength of your own forces and then hold a vote?
Who decides from which age on people are eligible to vote? etc...
Look into anarchism, all of these questions and whatever else you can think of have been answered.
Anarchistfaq is a site you can read on this more on.