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“Experts in Europe warn that these devices are used to record strangers without their consent, possibly breaching EU law.”

“A small LED light is designed to indicate when recording is taking place, but RTBF's investigators found that tutorials explaining how to conceal the indicator are abundant and easily accessible online.”

Sometimes I have a hard time deciding who I despise more, parasite Mark Zuckerberg or its witless hosts who keep using its products—yes, Zuck's pronoun is it. Ban Ray-Ban, for frick's sake.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 44 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

I understand how creepy this is but why is this any different than the 1000s of cameras on poles literally everywhere these days. Neither of these should be acceptable

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 20 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The cameras on poles can't see literally everywhere, and can't physically follow you around.

And the cameras on poles have (at least in theory) regulations and laws governing how their footage can (and cannot) be used.

MetaCreepSpecs don't have any such restrictions.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

It wouldn't historically be crazy to take your sunglasses into a locker room or bathroom, for example. Now? WTF DUDE. YOU SOME KIND OF CREEP!?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The cameras on poles are meant for public spaces and security. Meta glasses are for whatever the fuck the wearer will intend the recordings for for private use.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -3 points 14 hours ago

The article is about people being filmed in public places though.

[–] 4grams@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Completely agree, but because another bad thing exists, it’s no reason not to care about this bad thing.

These are also separate (but obviously related) issues. The flock and other surveillance cameras are about control and, well surveillance. These meta glasses are about personal interactions and predatory behavior of creepy people. They are also markedly different than cameras in phones, since they are much more obvious that they are recording.

They both need to go.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Which is why I said neither of these should be acceptable.

[–] 4grams@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Which is why I said I completely agree. Just adding some context..

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Oh sorry. Reading comprehension is not my strong point.. 😀 Carry on.

[–] 4grams@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

No worries, we’re all friends here. Carry on yourself :)

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Because somehow those recordings being misused is less offensive than these recordings being misused.

Honestly, the privacy aspect in public is completely out the window already. Anyone arguing that these are somehow worse than what already exists is either arguing in bad faith or misunderstands the current (previous?) state of things.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They're not worse, but having yet another thing invading our privacy in public IS worse. No sense in giving up even more ground.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

invading our privacy in public

Stop and think about what you just said for a second. Privacy…..in public. You have no privacy in public, those are opposites.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

There's degrees of privacy. People don't deserve to be recorded 24/7 just because they happen to be outside.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 45 minutes ago

You might skip any trips to urban UK.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

They don’t “deserve” to, but it is not illegal if they are. If you’re in a public space you shouldn’t expect privacy…..because you’re in a public place. That’s pretty obvious.

[–] Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Found the creep.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Something being legal doesn't make it morally correct and the rest of us should oppose this shit in every way we can, not simply expect it.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Oppose what, that you can be filmed or photographed without explicit consent when you’re in public?

So if I go to the Eiffel Tower, I have to go and ask the hundreds of other people there if they consent to me taking their photo simply because they’re in my photo? Or if I see a criminal breaking into a house, I have to ask them if I can take their photo/video if I want to report them and hand over my photos/video to the police?

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

creeps.

the same creeps who can't understand what the problem is. creeps filming women and girls without permission or consent.

creeps like you apparently.

[–] Darkonion@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Perhaps your future camera could automatically fog any individual that you haven't received prior consent from.

And yes, I realise this idea has a number of technological requirements that may not exist yet, or cannot reliably exist ever, and requires the trusting of some authority in a world where noone of that esteem seem to be able to exist.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Difference being: we're kind of powerless against government surveillance high up on a fence, but we can sanction the class traitor glassholes with an accidental elbow to the glasses and a clumsy step on them.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Seems like you’re giving a pass to government and corpos, while assaulting fellow citizens.

I intend on getting whatever glasses eventually come out with an AR layer involved, camera or not. Doesn’t mean I’ll be constantly recording. In fact I’d likely almost never record anything.

And apparently that means I deserve an elbow to the face.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

For AR you need to be recording. If you are recording, it is being sent to Facebook servers. You accepted Facebook's terms and conditions, not me.

If you don't want to be punched, you should advocate for laws that make the glasshole glasses ugly through non-avoidable methods of detecting if the glasses are recording.

For example by requiring every glass hole glass to have a physical cover that physically covers the view of the camera, and it should be a bright color to easily see if it is covering the camera or not. The contour of the camera should be painted with an equally bright color, contrasting highly with the cover. So you can easily see if the cover is covering it completely.

A led that turns on when recording is not enough, it's very easy to remove a led from a device.

If you want to not use glass hole glasses for evil, you should want it to be mandatory for other people to see if you're using it for evil or not.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

No, I am not giving a pass to government and corpos. But people recording others in public are henchmen of the very same fascist governments and yes, you deserve an elbow to the face if you record ANYONE (in more detail than within a large group of pedestrians) in public EVER without their explicit consent. Because you are - at least in civilized countries - violating privacy laws with the expectation that no one will sue you for it.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 13 hours ago

You’ve already stated that simply wearing them is assaultable. You have no way of knowing I’m recording, so you’ve just made the assumption that I am.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You’ll find that in almost every civilised country recording in public is 100% allowed. It’s what you do with the footage that has restrictions and laws around it.

Privacy in public is not a thing. They’re literally antonyms.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

is being done != is being allowed. don't film people without explicit consent, or you deserve whatever happens to you as a consequence.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Sorry but the law is the law, and in public places you can and will be filmed and they don’t need your explicit consent. Which countries do you think it is illegal to film people in public places without explicit consent?

If you don’t like it, don’t go out in public. Also don’t pretend like anyone here is going to do anything to anyone wearing them lol. Everyone is a hero behind their keyboard. There would be no consequences.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 0 points 16 hours ago

What are you even talking about? How is being filmed not worse than not being filmed, privacy-wise?

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip -1 points 18 hours ago

One is state approved surveillance. The other is just a camera that is limited in scope, view, and usage.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is what I don't get either. We literally have dozens of various camera options monitoring us in public, from random video doorbells to store CCTV, state/police CCTV, Google Maps cars, people on their phones, police officers and even random hired security thugs posing around with wearable cameras, drones, you name it... but the problem is cameras built into glasses?

Most European countries have actually codified that one has no expectations of privacy in public - that is, one may be recorded while out and about. Of course there's legislations about harassment - e.g. following someone with a camera and specifically recording them, in an attempt to harass or threaten them - and what essentially constitutes as blackmail ("I'll remove this video of you if you pay me"), so people should be using the recourse for those crimes, not criminalising a new product category.

Just owning a camera didn't make upskirt photos legal, nor does using a Meta camera glass make harassment legal.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 41 minutes ago

Do you know the meaning of CCTV?
Also yes, you can have a reasonable expectation of privacy while in public – within reason.