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[–] amelia@feddit.org 201 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

This further illustrates how absolutely crazy it is to produce these devices for a single use and then just throw them away, not even making sure they can be recycled properly. It's complete madness. I hope they'll be banned soon, I think the EU is working on it.

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 61 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

They should absolutely ban disposable but as long as they're smart about it and don't try and make it a general vape ban. Anything with a microcontroller and OLED display should need regulation to be "disposable". So fucking wasteful.

Vapes can and have always been something you can pop a battery and cartridge and custom juice in. There's zero reason to make it disposable. Make the coil/cotton/juice cartridge disposable... Like a juul was last I checked? That's reasonable.

And then next regulate how much nicotine can be in per ml. 60mg/ml is fucking insane. That is heart issue level of nicotine. I got buzzed off 12 mg/ml, used 3 or 6mg/ml regularly, and quit at 1.5mg/ml. There's no fucking reason other than harm and addiction to provide 60mg/ml.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 hours ago

Germany only allows 20mg/ml, I didn't know there were countries that allowed 60??? 😭

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

OLED maybe but small micros are now so cheap and so small that they're negligible.

Battery is probably still the biggest environmental impact.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

One of those 3 cent one time programmable microcontrollers would be sufficient. Something with enough power to run a web server is just wasteful.

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

You do realize that a 1 cent microcontroller has enough RAM, Flash and processing power to be a web server, correct?

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And the term web server doesn't mean it has to run the whole of AWS. It just means it can deliver some content over http.

[–] Dultas@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, I doubt it's running more than a couple concurrent connections. Idle web servers take very little resources.

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 6 points 13 hours ago

Getting ever closer to smart dust.

[–] michael_palmer 1 points 14 hours ago

don't try and make it a general vape ban. In some EU contries 10ml liquid costs more than pack of cigarettes, so they defacto banned vaping. how much nicotine can be in per ml. 60mg/ml 20 mg/ml is EU wide limit since 2025

[–] michael_palmer 20 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/07/10/council-adopts-new-regulation-on-batteries-and-waste-batteries/

The regulation provides that by 2027 portable batteries incorporated into appliances should be removable and replaceable by the end-user

Coming soon...

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

Disposable vapes are already forbidden, at least in France, idk if it is union wide.

But yeah, those things make no sense. The only thing with a battery that should be disposable would be fire alarm. Not because of tge battery, but because the main sensor has a 10 years lifespan due to its natural deterioration.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel the same way about earpods.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Compared to a vape pen AirPods have insane life span. It's still bad, but not even in the same ballpark as something you usually throw away in a week or so.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

yeah, no one ever loses an airpod...

oh wait

[–] cookiecoookie@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

That's fine for airpods but as someone who worked retail, there's just as many $15 earbuds that break near instantly that have to be thrown away and never fixed. Those things have 3 batteries in them.