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It will happen to you (programming.dev)

submitted 2 weeks ago by sus@programming.dev to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 65 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It's the configuration complexity clock.

You hardcode values in an established, full-featured programming language.

That gets annoying, so you push some into config files.

That's not powerful enough, so you let the config files include conditionals.

Soon your config files are more like scripts, but it's so easy to keep adding features...

And suddenly you're back to hardcoding, but in a newer, jankier programming language.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 10 points 2 weeks ago

i prefer referring to greenspun's tenth

[–] HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not powerful enough, so you let the config files include conditionals.

NOPE! Nope. That's the too far point. Abort. Abandon ship. Start over.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good Grug brain.

[–] HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Grug make thinky box do good.

Grug too dumb to understand impossible.

Peers say server too weak for search. Grug write custom search. Customer happy. Boss happy. Peers say it fail edge case. Grug shrug.

Peers say web app can't use CLI tool. Grug make extension. Customers happy. Boss happy. Peers say that cheating. Grug too dumb for rules.

Grug code small. Get used lots. Peers code big. Argue about reviews. Never get deployed.

Grug strongest there is

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

"Grug too dumb for rules" is legitimately good programming advice.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

That’s excellent. I think the initial momentum towards a DSL is basically equivalent to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner-platform_effect

[–] somegeek@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So this is exactly talking about Nix, Guix, chezmoi?

[–] zaubentrucker@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't know about chezmoi, but Nix and Guix use a proper programming language that is also suited as a configuration file format, no?

So they're at noon and might just stay there

[–] lime@feddit.nu 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

guix yeah, since they picked a pre-existing one. nix the language is arguably an overgrown dsl which explaits why it's... real weird.

[–] zaubentrucker@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

I guess nix started at noon of the next day lol