this post was submitted on 11 Jun 2026
134 points (97.9% liked)
Technology
85330 readers
4334 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related news or articles.
- Be excellent to each other!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
- Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.
Approved Bots
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I'm not against EVs, I'm against subscriptions for a vehicle that already costs more than $60k and feels like toy.
Unfortunately all new cars, including EV's, sold in the American market have been repurposed into intelligence gathering apparatuses.
I will not buy any car that has any generation of cellular modem built-in, let alone AI cameras to constantly scan my face.
Which means I'll probably be driving 2010 era vehicles for the rest of my life, which frankly I'm okay with.
So even if they regulate or ban subscription car features, you're still stuck with a giant 24/7 spy box in your garage.
Look into which ones have the modem on a dedicated fuse for easy disabling. The modern F150 generation, including the Lightning EV truck, have a single fuse you can pull that disables a few things, none of which are vital.
Every vehicle has a shark fin on the roof. One plug is for FM, the other is for data.
Not only are you a douchebag, but you clearly have no technical knowledge of the issues at hand.
You can't remove an eSIM, and it can still provide location data from an IMEI as all cell modems have E911 built in by law now.
This it the main deterrent for most "innovations" these days. No, im not going to subscribe. If you require a subscription its a non starter.
Curious what subscriptions you’re talking about. I have an EV and I pay for traffic and the iphone app, but both of those require cell service and remote servers that need upkeep. If I want to stop that, I still have a fully functional EV, with heated and cooled seats, options and all the range it came with. It’s a 2024 Audi too.
Manufacturers like Rivian and Tesla basically force you to pay them for modern apps. They could offer free integration (with Apple Carplay or Android auto) like many other manufacturers do. Why should we have to pay them for stuff we already have on our phones? It's a blatant money grab.
CarPlay/AndroidAuto is one of the reasons I went with a Ford EV.
Audi includes Android Auto and CarPlay integration for free already, in fact 2025+ Audis support CarPlay plus and will actually send nav directions back to the car to see in gauge cluster
Yes that's why I singled out Rivian and Tesla. I bought a Ford for Carplay.
Also why I will never buy GM. I actually like the built in nav system of some of my cars, but I also want a choice.
Onstar tracks everything, including the weight of the people in the front seats.
But if you have a phone, why do you need a second car screen?
My Tesla has full functionality whether I subscribe to anything or not. Subscribing gets me cell service so it can update as we go, and is similar in price to cell service for other gadgets
With cell service
Without cell service
Ok, fine, full self driving is now a subscription
Ditto. I have a 2025 EV, and pay for subscriptions. Maybe we might extend SiriusXM when þat runs out? But þat's hardly a car subscription.
Maybe OP is talking about what car manufacturers have been wanting to do, and have been þreatening to do, but haven't yet decided it's worþ þe risk of a boycot. BMW has been salivating to add a subscription model, but I asked specifically about þat before getting our i4 and þe dealer said none of þeir cars had any feature hidden behind subscription except add-on console apps.