I'm certainly anti-Rivian with their all-SUV lineup.
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I would consider buying a new EV as long as it was affordable, safe, good quality, and didn't spy on me. Otherwise, I'm sticking with old manuals and bikes.
Also, anyone who wants to charge me a subscription to use anything on the vehicle I own can eat all of my shit and hair.
Its the spying and subscriptions that keep me away.
I'm not against EVs, I'm against subscriptions for a vehicle that already costs more than $60k and feels like toy.
Unfortunately all new cars, including EV's, sold in the American market have been repurposed into intelligence gathering apparatuses.
I will not buy any car that has any generation of cellular modem built-in, let alone AI cameras to constantly scan my face.
Which means I'll probably be driving 2010 era vehicles for the rest of my life, which frankly I'm okay with.
So even if they regulate or ban subscription car features, you're still stuck with a giant 24/7 spy box in your garage.
Look into which ones have the modem on a dedicated fuse for easy disabling. The modern F150 generation, including the Lightning EV truck, have a single fuse you can pull that disables a few things, none of which are vital.
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This it the main deterrent for most "innovations" these days. No, im not going to subscribe. If you require a subscription its a non starter.
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American auto manufactutereeurs are trying to sell us $60k cars in an economy where we can barely afford usedslop.
Yeah, it's because the vehicles that are selling so incredibly well in Europe aren't available in the US, namely the BYD range.
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One of the largest issues is the American mindset when it comes to buying vehicles. Many people consider all of their needs, even those that might be yearly. Most EVs have the range to handle 99% of most peoples trips, but they consider that last 1% of a yearly road trip when thinking about range. It's one of the reasons that Trucks and SUVs are so popular with their higher capability.
Trucks and SUVs are popular because they can be made cheaper due to government subsidies and lax emissions laws that exempt them.
That's on top of the massive tariff in place for any truck imported into the US. Its a main reason the Big 3 basically stopped making sedans.
How can you not consider your all of your needs when buying a vehicle?
It's more over-weighting rare long road trips compared to everyday use. People are terrified of having to spend an extra 30 minutes charging an EV on a road trip, but don't think about all the time they can save on a weekly basis by never having to go to a gas station, or never having to get oil changes, etc.
You can rent a truck, but owning a truck means you have to pay more to haul around a bunch of stuff you don't need. That's why you shouldn't be worried about every possible thing you might need a vehicle for.
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From my experience reading the various articles everywhere and driving an EV exclusively since 2018... it is 100% misinformation, largely based on media coverage. And the media's lack of updates as technology has advanced quickly. Not all of it is intentional misinformation, some is just obviously ignorance by whoever is covering the topic.
There is the disinformation campaigns from the fossil fuel lobby, but that is separate from just poor journalism and people not updating their beliefs from previous reports they heard years prior.
Most US manufacturers have only produced the minimum EVs required for things tax breaks. And several of the big foreign manufacturers selling in the US have done the same, or cancelled plans to expand. Or they're focused on Hydrogen still for some reason despite 2+ decades proving that's a failed technology for consumer use.
So you really just have new startups on the scene, like Rivian, and Lucid, and a couple companies making mid EVs that clearly still use ICE thinking and just have an EV powertrain dropped in them, not taking advantage of the things they can do without an ICE engine.
A big indicator of this is if they still have an Engine Start/Stop button. There is no reason for that to exist in most EVs, especially if it has a mobile app and can have settings changed and starting things remotely. The vehicle is never "off" so there's nothing to start, just have it turn "on" when the key is inside. Tesla has done this basically since the beginning just fine. Getting in an EV and having to press a useless button just because that's what the ICE version needed is pointless and shows a lack of real development for the vehicle.
The start button (or app, or whatever) absolutely does something, and to say otherwise leads me to think you need to dive in deeper to how they work.
The button closes the contactors, activating the high voltage battery pack. To do otherwise is a massive safety risk. It also verifies the key (to prevent theft, and required by law) and on some models launches the parts of software needed for driving.
I'm not familiar with Tesla's design, but it should be easy enough to set the code to run this process whenever the door closes. Whether that's what people want is a different question entirely.
Yeah Chevy got rid if the start button and turns on* when you close the door. Its one of the common complaints I read about on the subreddit. It would annoy me as sometimes I dont need the car on and automatic things annoy me
I have had a tesla and a ford EV (with a start button). I prefer having a start button. I did not like how the tesla always fired on all of its accessories and HVAC every time I approached the car, even if i wasn't going anywhere.
in case anyone asks, no i don't still have the tesla.
I WANT a start/stop button or key. I do not want smartphone control. It is a car, whose sole purpose is to haul me around from place to place. Why does it need all of that extra crap?
I demand a physical power button for my EV, and a physical key fob. I am not okay with how Rivian only gives new owners a single key fob, the second key being relegated to an RFID card and an expectation that any other driver must use a smartphone app to replace physical key fob functions.
Taycan fits my needs very well in those regards, thankfully.
A lot of what I like about my bolt is how much its like a gas car. Everything has buttons for the most part, it has a start and stop button etc. A lot of my coworkers have teslas so I ride around in them often and its what put me off from even considering them
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Says the CEO of a luxury EV brand that only makes SUVs and pick-ups that sell for >60k. Can't imagine why no one is interested...
They literally just released a (more) reasonably priced SUV. The R2.
They always planned on starting with the high end market, then slowly release more economically priced versions as their technology matures.
Will it work? Who knows.
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