But honestly, I feel a more base, emotionally driving hatred towards the more immediate capitalists in my life. I hate my landlord, I hate my district manager, I hate my uncle who makes 250k a year sending emails. These are more the people I want to rip out of their homes kicking and screaming to the guillotines.

Pretty much every successful communist revolution didn't direct their fury towards just the richest of the richest, they recognized there were people down the hierarchy who were still exploiters who deserved the wrath of the proletariat. Calling for the liquidation of American Kulaks would do more for socialism in America than trying to get people to strike against Bezos.

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[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

his class interests should be more in line with other wage workers

No they aren't lmao. Nobody is making 250k sending emails in a just society.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well, I agree. But we don't live in a just society. We live in a shitty and unequitable capitalist hellscape.

But also, I do not think it is the monetary value that is the problem. I think it is the inequity and the labor exploitation/relationship to the MoP that is the problem.

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They're labor aristocrats. Their relationship to the means of production is that keeping things the way they are gives them a better quality of life than a just society would. I don't think it's necessarily worth people's time trying to organize labor aristocrats just for the heck of it.

There are already unions for various labor aristocratic jobs. They aren't revolutionary or progressive. They aren't advancing socialism or whatever.

Here's SPEEA, a "professional aerospace union": https://speea.org/

Does it seem like it could be part of a revolutionary movement?

And most people don't really care whether they're technically part of the 1% or whatever. People know how their bread gets buttered and want to keep their quality of life.

I do not think it is the monetary value that is the problem. I think it is the inequity and the labor exploitation/relationship to the MoP that is the problem.

I assure you nobody actually cares about some technical relationship to the means of production. I don't care about this. I care about my quality of life. It is almost entirely the monetary value that people care about.

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

graeber