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hasan wouldnt have his gigantic platform on twitch dot tv if he were genuinely radical. same for the rest of the "mainstream left". that's what it all comes down to in the end.
I know you're right, and this is probably naive on my part, but while I knew that Hasan, and by extension, the rest of "DSA" types, were never highly radical, I had gotten my hopes up that if there were anything genuine happening, that there were some genuine learning from lessons happening. Evidently not.
the problem with the current generation of "leftists" is that they don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. that is, they want to keep imperialism but they don't like how the spoils are distributed. that means they'll do stupid shit like align themselves with actual nazis in congress in the hopes that they'll kill Other People, not them. the obvious problem with that is the ingroup always shrinks and rarely grows. and as capitalism grows increasingly volatile, the ingroup shrinks more and more often and grows less and less often. the new deal liberals will never learn because the core of their ideology is the maintenance of imperialism but working better for them. it's the same reason leftist men are so chauvinistic. especially hasan. they hate being oppressed, but they don't mind being the oppressor. but at least hasan sometimes doesn't support the worst of the US war machine.