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Platner is kind of the perfect embodiment of the Left's issue with the state of electoralism in this country.

He's very obviously the lesser evil compared to Collins. And you can even make a strategic voting argument that him winning might actually be a catalyst towards moving the Dems in a direction that materially improves people's live. But not enough to fix any fundamental problems, so of course the fascists will take back power again in a few years and undo all that and march us further down the path to Fourth Reichdom.

...and the price you pay for that is you've gotta vote for the unrepentant war criminal.

Oh, and there's like a 80/20 chance that he's just a disingenuous ghoul, or will simply be assimilated into the Dem blob. I honestly think we're going to look back a few years and wonder why in the hell we cared about this guy at all.

The guy went on multiple tours in Iraq and then as a blackwater mercenary in afghanistan. He defended people getting SS runes tattooed^[https://hexbear.net/post/6500448], he devised a way to keep shelling dense urban areas without getting detected after it got forbidden because the murder count got too high even for the US military^[https://hexbear.net/post/6562224], he wanted to "kill thousands ... maybe millions. Our way of life is better and if that is what it takes to prevail, lets get this show on the road"^[https://hexbear.net/post/6563795]

I hope he pays for his crimes, and I swear "the left" is just shorthand for losers who will suck up to the Democrats because "no movement we are just smol beans we have to play the game with what we have "

He has an actual fucking SS tattoo. That should be the end of any discussion.

it’s just another perfect example of the inherent flaws in “the left” ever hitching its wagon to the fucking Democratic Party.

It sounds like people just didn't understand what made 2016-era Sanders special. People liked 2016-era Sanders because he wasn't a card-carrying Democrat. He was just some dude with a history of progressive politics who only went through the motions of being a DINO in an attempt to steal the Democratic nomination from Clinton in the primaries. That's why people liked Sanders. People said similar things about Trump. That's the whole deal about Trump taking the Republican nomination from the "cuckservatives" like Jeb! and Ted Cruz.

AOC, Mamdani, et al are a regression for the very simple reason that they are sincere members of the Democratic Party. Unlike 2016-era Sanders (or more accurately, people's false impression of Sanders during 2016 when they thought Sanders would form his own party after losing the nomination instead of bending the knee), they are not there to undermine the Democratic Party. Even without getting into how they fall short from a socialist perspective, they don't even challenge the duopoly in any meaningful sense nor do they try to advocate around progressive causes like abolishing the electoral college.

Here's hoping a charismatic person who's totally not affiliated with PSL would crash the 2028 Democratic primaries in order to steal the nomination from Gruesome Newsome.

Also sick of hearing about the nazi mercenary shit bag that is just going to be another Fetterman and rest of the war criminals at the senate

the problem with Platner is that if he gets away with this shit the democratic party can practically get Donald Trump as the "progressive candidate" for some state. Western politics are a sham, shamelessly no standards

He's an Obvious Plant who will no doubt be the next / Fetterman. He will most likely have a staffer incident (womanizer violent Nazi) if not an outright Nazi / imperalist carrer despite pinky swearing he's a changed man.

I'm continually surprised that people can ready theory and still look for "the left" in the Dems, and still have room to be repeatedly surprised that it isn't there. Is it really so shocking that most of our work has not in fact been done for us, and that the ones actually furthering the socialist cause are doing so in relative obscurity? If the algorithm brings something or someone to my attention, I find it's a sound policy assume it's hostile until proven otherwise.

he's a butcher. nothing else really matters. i don't care if he promises the sky and all the stars in it, he massacred innocent people for fun. the only discussion that should be had about people like platner is "pit or rope?"

The present moment in "left politics" in America is driving me insane. I had thought that the people who constituted the mainstream of what could be called 'the left' were starting to clue in to the fact that the Democrats are without any shadow of a doubt the Enemy and can't be relied upon for anything other than backstabbing, but watching the people who have stood up to bat for Platner has made me feel like the last 10 years have been collectively forgotten, or never mattered

he makes "the left" look bad because he's a war criminal who wants to renationalize military production to make it more efficient but in reality i spend way too much time thinking about electoral politics for the amount of good it does. i'd be better off talking about reality tv than spending another second talking about graham hitner.

i don't like him he's a "kill more efficiently" kind of guy, i think progressives will be disappointed in him. putting that aside though all this discourse only helps his opponent which is guaranteed to be worst. im not a "lesser of two evils" guy, it's just that republicans keep talking about him and progressive libs keep defending him and people here keep spamming dunks on the libs. it's all very tiring and it's not even helping us so why would people keep dunking on progressives is beyond me.