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So sick of hearing about Graham Platners dumb goofy ass (hexbear.net)

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I’m curious what the general consensus is here cause I am so so fucking tired of listening to people talk about Graham Platner.

I’m amenable to the possibility of him being decent but I am not holding my breath over it.

it’s just another perfect example of the inherent flaws in “the left” ever hitching its wagon to the fucking Democratic Party.

That phrase “the left” makes my skin crawl in general. I am so tired of having to constantly wrest the identity of a historic movement away from this or that charlatan, it is humiliating to me and my peers to invest faith and trust in these people.

But without a party, who can we say represents “the left”? With the crimes of chattel slavery and now Palestinian genocide, is this party really the vehicle?

As far as I’m concerned any Democratic politician has a massive bar to clear for any support from me. More importantly I think we can point to some disturbingly clear examples that the institutional forces of Democratic Party politics easily overawing any individual representative of “the left”

I don’t like to disparage people choosing optimism in general. It just seems so glaringly obvious that without an enforcement mechanism outside of the Democratic Party there is very little to create any kind of actual accountability and there is nothing but unlimited reward for participation and substance-less posturing.

Wonder what the PSL is up to! Wish them nothing but good things.

Curious where everyone is besides sick of this. WHO gives a fuck! It’s Maine! Hardly anyone lives there! Have you ever seen a black fly? Too scary in general this is just par for the course

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[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I know you're right, and this is probably naive on my part, but while I knew that Hasan, and by extension, the rest of "DSA" types, were never highly radical, I had gotten my hopes up that if there were anything genuine happening, that there were some genuine learning from lessons happening. Evidently not.

[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 14 hours ago

the problem with the current generation of "leftists" is that they don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. that is, they want to keep imperialism but they don't like how the spoils are distributed. that means they'll do stupid shit like align themselves with actual nazis in congress in the hopes that they'll kill Other People, not them. the obvious problem with that is the ingroup always shrinks and rarely grows. and as capitalism grows increasingly volatile, the ingroup shrinks more and more often and grows less and less often. the new deal liberals will never learn because the core of their ideology is the maintenance of imperialism but working better for them. it's the same reason leftist men are so chauvinistic. especially hasan. they hate being oppressed, but they don't mind being the oppressor. but at least hasan sometimes doesn't support the worst of the US war machine.