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So sick of hearing about Graham Platners dumb goofy ass (hexbear.net)

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I’m curious what the general consensus is here cause I am so so fucking tired of listening to people talk about Graham Platner.

I’m amenable to the possibility of him being decent but I am not holding my breath over it.

it’s just another perfect example of the inherent flaws in “the left” ever hitching its wagon to the fucking Democratic Party.

That phrase “the left” makes my skin crawl in general. I am so tired of having to constantly wrest the identity of a historic movement away from this or that charlatan, it is humiliating to me and my peers to invest faith and trust in these people.

But without a party, who can we say represents “the left”? With the crimes of chattel slavery and now Palestinian genocide, is this party really the vehicle?

As far as I’m concerned any Democratic politician has a massive bar to clear for any support from me. More importantly I think we can point to some disturbingly clear examples that the institutional forces of Democratic Party politics easily overawing any individual representative of “the left”

I don’t like to disparage people choosing optimism in general. It just seems so glaringly obvious that without an enforcement mechanism outside of the Democratic Party there is very little to create any kind of actual accountability and there is nothing but unlimited reward for participation and substance-less posturing.

Wonder what the PSL is up to! Wish them nothing but good things.

Curious where everyone is besides sick of this. WHO gives a fuck! It’s Maine! Hardly anyone lives there! Have you ever seen a black fly? Too scary in general this is just par for the course

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[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm continually surprised that people can ready theory and still look for "the left" in the Dems, and still have room to be repeatedly surprised that it isn't there. Is it really so shocking that most of our work has not in fact been done for us, and that the ones actually furthering the socialist cause are doing so in relative obscurity? If the algorithm brings something or someone to my attention, I find it's a sound policy assume it's hostile until proven otherwise.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 12 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I don’t think anyone who has read even a little marxist theory is supporting platner.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago

you'd be surprised... A lot of people don't actually engage with a text as a whole and instead just read sentence by sentence. They then piece it back together from what they remember reading after.