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Text: Amazon's electric cargo bikes have arrived in DC.

Image: A four-wheeled vehicle that appears to be a cross between a bicycle, a go-cart, and a mini-truck

Response text from high t alpha shemale @gluetaster: that's not a cargo bike man that's a loopholemobile

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Bicycle: a vehicle with two wheels tandem, handlebars for steering, a saddle seat, and pedals by which it is propelled

[–] Michal@programming.dev 1 points 23 hours ago

Fine, it's not a bicycle, it's a quadracicle if it makes you happy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadracycle

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The description of the vehicle is:

"Image: A four-wheeled vehicle that appears to be a cross between a bicycle, a go-cart, and a mini-truck"

There's really nothing about that vehicle that's bicycle-like. First of all, it has more than 2 wheels, so it's not a bicycle. In addition, you don't move it by pedalling. You also sit inside it, not on it.

It's really more of a cross between a golf cart and a delivery truck. It might legally get through loopholes meant for bicycles, but there's nothing about it that looks bicycle-like.

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

To be clear, that was just a description I quickly made up for the post. I've been trying to make more of an effort to caption my image posts with text, in order to make them more disability-friendly and accessible.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Just two wheels and pedal propulsion are all that is required, I can show you bicycles without handlebar steering or saddle-style seats that you would agree are still definitely bikes.

Regardless, the thing above is certainly not a bike.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

I ride a bicycle with a laid back seat, tiller steering, and two wheels, and pedals

It also takes three standard chains to connect the pedals to the back wheel

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Bicycle can also be 3 wheeler, either 2 in front or back like adaptive bicycles

or even 3 in line like this

There's also 4wheel adaptive bicycles like this one

Noteworthy also that only 2 from the above had a handlebar!

Now I'm not defending loopholecyle, which is basically a light truck, but just pointing out that your definition is very wrong

[–] psud@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The words are tricycle and quadcycle

Bi means two

A trike is not a bike

Behold! A child riding a quadcycle!

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah that's the origin of the word

Just like one would think of the dice game when talking about 'hazard'

Sometimes words change their meanings

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I'm not usually a linguistic purist but we can't let two mean three.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Trikes and quads might share characteristics with bicycles, but they're not bicycles because they don't have two wheels.

"a vehicle with two wheels tandem"

"a two-wheeled vehicle that you sit on"

"a vehicle with two wheels in tandem"

"Bicycle is a two-wheeled vehicle powered by the rider"

"bicycle, two-wheeled steerable machine that is pedaled by the rider’s feet"

"a bicycle, a bike: a two-wheeled vehicle moved by pressing down on pedals with your feet"

Sometimes you could argue that there's a grey area between a moped and a bicycle, or an e-bike and a bicycle. But, the two wheels is a key part of the definition. As soon as it's more (or less) than two permanently attached wheels, it's no longer a bicycle. That's why we have words like unicycle, tricycle, etc.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I would call the first image a tricycle (The shoulder-driven steering linkage on that thing is cool as hell btw), the second one is a concept that the builder does admittedly call a bike, and the third one a quadcycle with a pedal assist motor.