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[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Although maybe "unnattractive" isn't a good fit because I do understand that it's not a woman's default objective to "be attractive" to me.

When you say that something is unattractive , it's your personal opinion which you are entitled to. It's fine. We are people, we are diverse.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Im not so sure about that. Of course its fine to not be attracted to different traits, thats not in question. The problem is what we say.

If someone says they find a phrase impolite, or that they find a meal bland, there's an implication that the thing has not met that person's expectations.

People dont sail around expressing their opinion that they find something unattractive for that very reason.

[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If someone says they find a phrase impolite, or that they find a meal bland

And that's an opinion too. That's fine.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You chopped my sentence in half in order to avoid acknowledging the point i made?

[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The second half doesn't change the essence of the phrase. If it does and I didn't understand it - please elaborate.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Having an opinion is fine.

Stating that you have a negative opinion implies that something is unsatisfactory.

[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

...implies that something is unsatisfactory.

For the author of the opinion.
And that's fine

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fine. Continue telling everyone which traits you think make a woman unattractive. Its just your opinion after all.

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Id bet you wouldnt feel so strongly if they were talking about what makes a man unattractive

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Hottest thing ever. Tastes and smells revolting. Eventually kills the person, but fuck if my growing up in the 90s brain doesn’t immediately equate smoking with “ooooh mysterious, probably reads a lot of Russian fiction, hot af.”

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IMO this isn't a special case. Most smokers don't want to be smokers, they are unable to stop. It's fine that you find smoking unattractive, but telling everyone just makes you a bit of a jerk IMO.

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Its wild to me verbalizing turn-ons and turn-offs is considered rude nowadays.

It used to be considered prudent and realistic.

Not wasting my time or their time is polite.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 9 hours ago

If you don't want to date people who enjoy role play, sure. It's not rude to make people aware of that. Fine.

If you don't want to date people who are overweight, that's fine. However, if you say that to someone they will probably find you to be a bit of a jerk.

There was a time, decades ago, when smoking was much more common that it was seen as something more like a choice or preference - maybe vaping enjoys that category these days. Now that smoking is much more unusual it's more like a type of substance abuse. Any smoker hoping to form a meaningful relationship would be aware that it's an impediment.

You can avoid wasting people's time simply by not consuming it.