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New Outlook takes 10 seconds to show an email after clicking a Windows 11 notification. Outlook Classic does it instantly.

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[–] realitista@lemmus.org 23 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I'm so tired of companies replacing apps with far inferior updates. If you need to rewrite, at least ensure it can do the same job.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I'm going to disagree slightly.

IMO, outlook is bloated. It has too many features that are either confusing or difficult to use. Microslop should have released a completely new mail app and given it a new providence along with modern features.

Think gmail but it would work with any email account.

Made with modern programming practices. Streamlined and zippy.

But nope.

They needed to create Outlook (new). Which they enshittified.

I fucking hate Outlook. It is stuck in the age of emails being the primary source of communication in a company. Teams isn't any better. (Give me back slack please!!!!)

But let's be clear here: we (the users) aren't Outlook customers. Corporate IT is. And from their standpoint, Outlook does exactly what they need it to do.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 8 hours ago

Made with modern programming practices. Streamlined and zippy.

LMAO

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure a lot of the bloat is due to needing to make every single thing backwards compatible due to corporations using it and building tools with it for decades.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Bingo! But MS has managed all that brilliantly with Excel, mainly by NOT fucking with it.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Gmail is fine for home use, but not for heavy office use. Outlook is a productivity application and needs to stay one, not just an email client.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

My last job used Google for email, auth across multiple apps and office productivity. Worked fairly well, but HR and Accounting still needed Office.

I argued Active Directory would be as cheap or cheaper and far easier to manage, AND give us options we didn't have. For some reason that whole place hated AD.The misconceptions were staggering, as if all they knew was from Windows Server 2003.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder why they are pushing so hard on new outlook. Its one of their most used products...and people REALLY dont like changes to it.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Because the manager running the program needs to justify their job.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Yeah but try fucking around with Excel like that! Killed, golden goose, all that.

[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Presumably AI.