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[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If the BBC thinks Russia was behind the arson attacks on properties and a car connected to the prime minister, I will believe the BBC, for two reasons:

  1. The BBC is a reliable reporter of facts
  2. Russia has a pattern of this sort of behaviour (like when they paid Brits to burn a warehouse in London, and when they brought a chemical weapon to the UK which killed an innocent British woman)
[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago

My experience with them is that they get the facts right.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I suggest that you go check the "Manufacturing Consent" Lemmy community if you think the BBC is a "reliable reporter of facts". If you speak a foreign language I would also suggest you compare the BBC reporting of foreign affairs with the coverage of the same events in the Press elsewhere in Europe (which, by the way, is how I noticed just how must they spinned their news coverage back when I lived in Britain as an immigrant).

As for your second line and judging by the links you provided, you "know" that "Russia has a pattern of this sort of behaviours" because the BBC told you so. In other words, that second line is logically a repetition of the first line.

The BBC is very elegant in their propaganda, almost never outright lying, but they definitelly do cherry-picking, spinning, biased framing, selective reporting and other more subtle forms of misinformation for the purpose of "opinion forming".

I very keenly remember how Russia was blamed by pretty much all of the British press, including the BBC, for Brexit and then eventually came out that Cambridge Analytical were the ones doing most of the Social Network manipulation and they were being paid to do it by rich Americans, not Russia, so I'm logically incredibly skeptic when shit done in Britain by Britons is said by the British Press and British Politicians to be the fault of Russia, because that has the very same stink as the decades of "blame the EU for everything" by British Politicians and Press until Brexit and the "blame Russia" since.

The Public School Educated Elites that control power and the Press blaming foreigners in some way or other for the problems in Britain is self-serving and because it happens repeatedly it's thus highly suspicious.

[–] BlindPenguin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you “know” that “Russia has a pattern of this sort of behaviours” because the BBC told you so.

The BBC isn't the only one reporting about these Russian "adventures", you know? At some point you just have to realize that Russia is influencing people in multiple countries it perceives as enemies. This isn't anything new.

[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you “know” that “Russia has a pattern of this sort of behaviours” because the BBC told you so

No. Other reliable sources have also mentioned the stories I raised. Here is the UK police talking about the Russia-backed arson of a warehouse in London. And here on the UK government's website you can find the report of the inquiry into the Salisbury poisonings (with a Russian chemical weapon) in 2018.

That inquiry which I mentioned was conducted by a senior judge, who concluded this:

Petrov, Boshirov and Fedotov were members of an operational team within the GRU – the Russian military intelligence agency responsible for foreign intelligence gathering. I am sure that, in conducting their attack on Sergei Skripal, they were acting on instructions. I have concluded that the operation to assassinate Sergei Skripal must have been authorised at the highest level, by President Putin.