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Secret agencies are alike in that respect: they reveal truth partially and only when it's beneficial, else they can create a narrative weakly supported by coincidences and 'evidence' that wouldn't hold in most courts.

My question, is why would Russian target him? Starmer is doing everything possible to throw the country to Reform. I call bullshit.

The BBC is not reliable.

I suggest that you go check the "Manufacturing Consent" Lemmy community if you think the BBC is a "reliable reporter of facts". If you speak a foreign language I would also suggest you compare the BBC reporting of foreign affairs with the coverage of the same events in the Press elsewhere in Europe (which, by the way, is how I noticed just how must they spinned their news coverage back when I lived in Britain as an immigrant).

As for your second line and judging by the links you provided, you "know" that "Russia has a pattern of this sort of behaviours" because the BBC told you so. In other words, that second line is logically a repetition of the first line.

The BBC is very elegant in their propaganda, almost never outright lying, but they definitelly do cherry-picking, spinning, biased framing, selective reporting and other more subtle forms of misinformation for the purpose of "opinion forming".

I very keenly remember how Russia was blamed by pretty much all of the British press, including the BBC, for Brexit and then eventually came out that Cambridge Analytical were the ones doing most of the Social Network manipulation and they were being paid to do it by rich Americans, not Russia, so I'm logically incredibly skeptic when shit done in Britain by Britons is said by the British Press and British Politicians to be the fault of Russia, because that has the very same stink as the decades of "blame the EU for everything" by British Politicians and Press until Brexit and the "blame Russia" since.

The Public School Educated Elites that control power and the Press blaming foreigners in some way or other for the problems in Britain is self-serving and because it happens repeatedly it's thus highly suspicious.

I remember when the BBC digitally altered a picture of Corbyn to wear a Soviet cap on his head and used it as a background for a news program and spread the "anti-semitism" slander against him (which was so extreme that at one point a Jewish Holocaust Survivor was accused of anti-semitism for the words he said in a Conference For Palestine to try to taint Corbyn by association) to bring him down from the Labour Party leadership.

I remember when British politicians and press gleefully spread the "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" lie justifying British military participation in the Iraq War,

Also the idea that Tommy Robinson is only funded by Russia and thus controlled by them and not by American fatcats (given that some years ago Steve Bannon came to Europe with money from the Koch Brothers very openly to "fund far-right parties" as well as it was Americans who were funding Cambridge Analitica to do Social Medial manipulation in favor of Leave), and local rich cunts, is very much the whitewashing I was talking about.

I'll wait for the results of an inquest led by a Senior Judge to make up my mind about Russia having in fact supported that cunt Tommy Robinson in this.

Do you have actual proof confirmed by an independent source that this was done by Russia?

Occan's Razor would lead us to conclude that what happens in a place is most likely the due to the locals (because they're the ones there, they're the ones with the most local knowledge and influence to make things happen and they're the ones who care the most about it), so you need strong proof to support a claim which goes against the most simple explanation.

I'm not even saying it wasn't for sure Russia - I don't know for sure either way.

I'm saying that you can't trust the British Politicians or the British Press when they claim that a bad thing that happenned in Britain is somehow the fault of foreigners because that's self-serving (it exhonerates those same people or their mates of responsability) and there is a long history of those people blaming foreigners for all the shit that happenned in Britain, for example the decades of relentless Blame the EU leading to Brexit or the blaming of Russia for Brexit itself and then it turns out it was mainly orchestrated by Cambridge Analitica which is a British company and was being paid for it by Americans plus anybody with fucking eyes on their fucking face could have spotted just how much during the decade leading to the Referendum the local press gave extra high (when compared to, for example, Greenparty leaders) visibility to very much local cunts such as Nigel Farage.

My skepticism of the British Press and Politicians on this is logic because of their very long track record of relentlessly blaming foreigners for British problems.

No, Putin trained my dog to hide it

I have no idea what does that even mean