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[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My spouse is watching The Good Place, and just got to the end of season 3. There's a scene where one character is explaining to a council of people from heaven that life is so complex nowadays that nobody can get into heaven, and for the last 500 years not a single person can get into heaven.

The council then says they're going to spend 400 years forming a committee, and then that committee will spend 1000 years forming its own investigative committee to make sure there's no conflict of interest, THEN they'll investigate the system to see if there's a problem.

The first character then exclaims that I those 1400 years before the investigation even starts people will still be going to hell regardless of how good they tried to be.

The committee then states they are "deeply concerned" by that, which got me to start cackling.

The committee sums up my view of democrats.

Even if they are concerned by the daily atrocities and banality of evil, they're too concerned about doing things "by the book" and too concerned with the status quo changing that they are basically doing nothing. They might think they're acting swiftly, but the whole time all the people suffering are continuing to suffer.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Even if they are concerned by the daily atrocities and banality of evil

You must not be American. Right now all branches of the Federal Government and the majority of states' governments are Republican. Democrats have absolutely no power to do anything but talk.

The US isn't a European style parliament where minority parties have some power.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

You must not be American. Right now all branches of the Federal Government and the majority of states’ governments are Republican. Democrats have absolutely no power to do anything but talk.

It's funny that when the roles are reversed and democrats have majorities, they're still powerless. They're just malingering and useless.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You're right that Democrats are near-powerless right now, but it was only a few short years ago when they were in power. Let's not forget their actions.

When in power, they did not concern themselves with the daily atrocities or the banality of evil.

Their overwhelming support for the genocide in Palestine is just the tip of the banality iceberg.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

Republicans spend a decade gaining supermajorities in state legislatures and packing the judiciary with republican judges.

Democrats spent a decade celebrating Hillary Clinton's imminent election.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Ask Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema if Democrats were really "in power." Republicans have been willing to shred the Constitution in order to get what they want, but it works primarily because they operate virtually in lock step with one another, even if they sometimes allow one member or another to vote No on some horrifying bill or another, so long as that No vote won't change the end result.

Democrats have the opposite problem: in recent memory they've only ever had the narrowest of majorities in Congress, and they're a bunch of cats on a good day, so there's always a few Democrats in vulnerable seats that will break with the party in order to maintain their "outsider" image with their purple district voters. Add on that Democrats for the most part don't want to shred the Constitution, and it's very difficult for them to achieve their goals.

And add on that most media in this country is owned and operated by billionaires and it constantly pushes the narrative that anything to the left of Ronald Reagan is basically Karl Marx, and you've got an electorate that is on balance very suspicious of things that, to a reasonable person, would obviously make the world a better place, like universal healthcare, free pre-K education, police reform, immigration reform, and so on.

The Democrats that do want to make the world a better place are essentially trying to play honest baseball with unreliable teammates, shitty coaches and managers, opponents who are 'roided out of their minds, and umpires who won't call objective balls and strikes. Even for the ones who are trying to improve things (and they do exist!) it's an appalling situation.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Ask Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema if Democrats were really “in power.”

They were. They wielded power through people like Manchin and Sinema.

Democrats have the opposite problem: in recent memory they’ve only ever had the narrowest of majorities in Congress, and they’re a bunch of cats on a good day, so there’s always a few Democrats in vulnerable seats that will break with the party in order to maintain their “outsider” image with their purple district voters.

Well, that's all the party needs to do the only thing the party is for. Being the pawl on the ratchet.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

Student loan forgiveness? Replacing Coal with Solar? Expanded ACA?

All gone under Trump. But both sides bad.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I am American, and i am getting very tired of hearing "they CAN'T do things because they have to play by the rules!"

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I am American, and i am getting very tired of hearing “they CAN’T do things because they have to play by the rules!”

The rules they could change with a simple majority. And any rules they can plausibly make up as well. We can't ignore the Parliamentarian!

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What exactly do you expect them to do? Don't just say "something", be specific.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Keep their promises when we put them in power and stop supporting genocide.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Encourage people to take power into their own hands by any means necessary. Stop downplaying and condemning the use of violence to get shit done. If a city needs to burn down and cops need to die, then so be it.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

So your big plan is either a cross between and unwinnable civil war and a terrorist movement guaranteed to drive people away from the cause.

Sure.

I'm not going to join in on your suicide by cop plan, but you go ahead. Pull a Luigi, make it count. Otherwise, wait until after November so that if wide scale uncivil disobedience becomes necessary, it will be seen as justified and not some psycho lashing out.