Late Stage Capitalism

It's fun trying to decide whether this is #bothSides-ism or just lack of awareness of how evolution works. "It's pointless to push for better because while one's less imperfect they're both still imperfect" just seems like the footshot of harm reduction.

It scores really well precisely because the conservative cult, built on blind loyalty to the Team, just does not care about this stuff, and the dem refugees are constantly re-evaluating for purity and will lap this up to feed their angst. It could only be less transparent if it was posted originally from GMT+3

They vote to fund ICE, Biden did nothing to release the Epstein files or go after obvious sedition in the name of bipartisanship. His SAVE act was desperately needed after he signed into law the inability to discharge overwhelming amounts of student debt in bankruptcy. He has personally voted to increase police funding. Obama started putting kids in cages and continued the funding of ICE. There's more but that's what's just on the surface of what I remember right now.

Only about 20% of eligible voters vote in the primaries. If we want candidates that will fight for our interests, we need to do more than simply voting Democrat in the general elections.

I’ve been using the following sites to find candidates that aren’t taking AIPAC money and are focused on supporting the working class:

• https://www.trackaipac.com/candidates
• https://workingfamilies.org/candidates/

Youre right i guess we should all just start voting for more republicans. Maybe well get jd vance mext. Maybe hegseth wants to take a shot. Since theyre all the same anyways. Maybe patel or noeme then she can shoot dogs all day and itll be totally fine. Or better yet just stop voting all together. Who needs all that noise. Just let them do whatever amd we can go back to being serfs

While I won’t argue that this has often been the role of the Democratic Party, and I have no doubt that it is a priority of the current party leadership, it is not an inherent function of the party. With our current electoral system, it is inevitable that our politics will be dominated by two parties. Republicans are the worse choice of the two on literally every single issue, including being less open than Democrats to changes to the electoral system itself. The solution, as leftists, is not to abandon the Democratic Party, but rather to take it over from within and elect party leadership focused on real change and not upholding the status quo. This approach is much more feasible and potentially much faster than trying to build a new party from the ground up, and much less destructive and painful for the people than violent revolution and the civil war that would likely ensue.

My spouse is watching The Good Place, and just got to the end of season 3. There's a scene where one character is explaining to a council of people from heaven that life is so complex nowadays that nobody can get into heaven, and for the last 500 years not a single person can get into heaven.

The council then says they're going to spend 400 years forming a committee, and then that committee will spend 1000 years forming its own investigative committee to make sure there's no conflict of interest, THEN they'll investigate the system to see if there's a problem.

The first character then exclaims that I those 1400 years before the investigation even starts people will still be going to hell regardless of how good they tried to be.

The committee then states they are "deeply concerned" by that, which got me to start cackling.

The committee sums up my view of democrats.

Even if they are concerned by the daily atrocities and banality of evil, they're too concerned about doing things "by the book" and too concerned with the status quo changing that they are basically doing nothing. They might think they're acting swiftly, but the whole time all the people suffering are continuing to suffer.

As long as we have this broken first-past-the-post electoral system, I will vote blue, no matter what. When we have something better (proportional representation, for example), I will entertain more nuanced parties. Until then, at least the D leaders haven't actively dismantled democracy.

I think that’s a big reason many Americans don’t vote. It’s not really a choice, just the perception of a choice and the spectacle of a contest.

Yes, BUT, it's easier to infiltrate them with the people's politicians than it is the other side. If the people stop being idiots and stop voting for the Right, which doesn't even have the veneer of their interests on their policies, and only vote dem irrespective of how duplicitous they are, then the dem block can be broken up into middle managers vs actual leftists, and the overton window can start shifting back the other way, many years from now.

If your voting options are for Fiery Pits of Hell vs Endless Limbo, you vote Endless Limbo no matter how far from Heaven it happens to be right now.

And yeah, go and do things that might change the system. Just remember that not voting is not abstention: it's complicity in electing the Fiery Pits of Hell, by design.

Ok, I will abstain and allow the mass murdering child rapists to run the country instead!

I would describe it as both sides are beholden to capitalistic influence, just in different ways.

There is no "this is the reason our party exists" conspiracy.