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[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Based on our growth as a species/taking over ecosystems, if certain animal populations in the wild aren't culled (have a certain number of their population killed), it will be bad for the local ecosystem.

There are arguments that allowing animals to do this, instead of humans, will not always guarantee the impact we want, either.

(Fun wolves in Yellowstone video in case you like video essays and want to go off on this tangent: https://youtu.be/Y9sQdMrEX2g )

Personally: I don't hunt and I rarely buy meat, but I still eat it from time to time and am upset when it goes to waste. I don't like the idea of a factory farm, but "here we are."

Final thought: the best way to decrease meat consumption is to make the alternatives easy to prepare and alluring to more of the population.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Final thought: the best way to decrease meat consumption is to make the alternatives easy to prepare and alluring to more of the population.

I learned long ago that ethics won't win out. It comes down to cost and convenience. Alternatives need to be cheap and easy.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 3 points 19 hours ago

Alternatives need to be cheap and easy.

I agree. We've created quite the fast paced and frantic society. A cheap an easy alternative could shift our consumption if we scale it properly. I'd argue it should be a primary focus of anyone passionately against factory farming. We can worry about moral messages as an aside: busy, poor, and hungry families will respond better to successfully launched vegetarian and vegan fast food options at existing establishments. We're not culturally there yet.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Based on our growth as a species/taking over ecosystems, if certain animal populations in the wild aren’t culled (have a certain number of their population killed), it will be bad for the local ecosystem.

This isn't relevant to farmed animals. Farmed animals can't overpopulate because we are the ones controlling their population.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This isn’t relevant to farmed animals.

I agree. If we could replace that system with something healthier for the planet, and our species, we would stand to benefit.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If we could replace that system with something healthier for the planet, and our species, we would stand to benefit.

So you agree we should replace animal agriculture with plant based agriculture?

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 1 points 2 hours ago

Yes (with some exceptions like eggs, milk, and other animal products like wool).

It makes sense environmentally. I would change my mind on this if there was some need to eat meat that couldn't be replaced by a vegetarian diet. I don't see the point in eating them, though.

It's not going to change until it becomes more lucrative/economical to do so, though, of course.