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[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I work returns in a Costco. In fact, I'm typing this on my phone in the little office we have in receiving.

Food either gets sold or gets pulled for various reasons. Pulled food goes first to the local food banks. What can't go to them goes to a farm, a local pet rescue group, and to a wildlife rescue and rehabilitation group.

Anything left over from all that goes into a bin to be turned into high grade compost, which gets sold for $5 for a 20lb bag.

It takes time and money to do this, and it gets done anyway because the will is there.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Me when there are Costcoposters

TBH though I love Costco. They actually pay their employees well, value their customers, and do things correctly. It's living proof that things could be different it's just a group of around 300 people set the incentive structures and propaganda used to program everyone and everything...

[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Well, before Costco I worked at Walmart. You can imagine the difference in environment

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yes, yes and of we made everyone who makes 250k/yr pay 3865$/mo for ubi income of 1800$/mo for everyone in the country it would work out. It would take like 5 years for a solid treasury/trust to accumulate. It would be able to happen though.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

We have a couple of services where I'm at now, where as food approaches its best before date, it goes into the app where you can order it at a discount and then go pick it up in store. If it can be frozen, they'll also freeze it to prolong its shelf life, like if it's fresh sausages that aren't selling.

I once got a large box of like 50 frozen burgers (frozen by default, not fresh to frozen) for like 80% off because they'd reached the best before on the box. They weren't freezer burned or anything like that, they were perfect.

A lot of places would have just thrown that out.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 6 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

It is not that easy. It is not a question of can we feed people but can we get the food to them. Produce that doesn't sell is not going to last shipping again.

[–] bloogoose@lemmy.zip 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

There are starving people outside the grocery stores...

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Who will not eat fresh produce. It takes a lot of work to prepare a healthy meal from scratch; with employers not giving us enough time and money to invest into healthy, tasty, varied meals, people resort to eating fast junk.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 15 hours ago

If we build centers for distributing food people will come.

[–] bless@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

Don't worry, I'm sure that there are kitchens less than a day's drive away

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[–] rossman@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago

i heard local vendors would give their unsellable foods (discolored etc) to churches to hand out. dont know how much but its a tough issue.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Supermarkets destroy food if it doesn't sell. We can always feed the world. We just don't.

Somehow, I dyslexic speed-reading misread that at first as:

Supremacists destroy food if it doesn't sell. We can always feed the world. We just don't.

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

I've always called it first glance dyslexia 🫪

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 59 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A lot of that "destroyed food" is animals who lived their entire lives in tiny, filthy cages just so that they could be killed and rot in a plastic bag.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I consider that just morally outrageous. To kill something so we can survive is nature's law of predator and prey.... But to kill and not have it consummed seems like the cruelest evil.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Not even, there's no biological need to eat animals or what they produce. We've established that much. It's just a choice, a preference, a form of cruelty ("I don't need to eat you, but I will chose to do so because it pleases me, now suffer and die without bothering me"). Throwing their corpses to waste is just the cherry on top.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Based on our growth as a species/taking over ecosystems, if certain animal populations in the wild aren't culled (have a certain number of their population killed), it will be bad for the local ecosystem.

There are arguments that allowing animals to do this, instead of humans, will not always guarantee the impact we want, either.

(Fun wolves in Yellowstone video in case you like video essays and want to go off on this tangent: https://youtu.be/Y9sQdMrEX2g )

Personally: I don't hunt and I rarely buy meat, but I still eat it from time to time and am upset when it goes to waste. I don't like the idea of a factory farm, but "here we are."

Final thought: the best way to decrease meat consumption is to make the alternatives easy to prepare and alluring to more of the population.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Final thought: the best way to decrease meat consumption is to make the alternatives easy to prepare and alluring to more of the population.

I learned long ago that ethics won't win out. It comes down to cost and convenience. Alternatives need to be cheap and easy.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 2 points 16 hours ago

Alternatives need to be cheap and easy.

I agree. We've created quite the fast paced and frantic society. A cheap an easy alternative could shift our consumption if we scale it properly. I'd argue it should be a primary focus of anyone passionately against factory farming. We can worry about moral messages as an aside: busy, poor, and hungry families will respond better to successfully launched vegetarian and vegan fast food options at existing establishments. We're not culturally there yet.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Based on our growth as a species/taking over ecosystems, if certain animal populations in the wild aren’t culled (have a certain number of their population killed), it will be bad for the local ecosystem.

This isn't relevant to farmed animals. Farmed animals can't overpopulate because we are the ones controlling their population.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This isn’t relevant to farmed animals.

I agree. If we could replace that system with something healthier for the planet, and our species, we would stand to benefit.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

If we could replace that system with something healthier for the planet, and our species, we would stand to benefit.

So you agree we should replace animal agriculture with plant based agriculture?

[–] Kptkrunch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I mean the cow probably doesn't care if you needlessly killed it to throw away the meat or to eat it.. both are unnecessary and both result in the same outcome for the cow. Both are also destroying the planet. "Predator/prey" is a great appeal to nature that I am sure many people use to justify themselves lazily shuffling through Walmart to throw frozen burgers into their cart.

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[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

capitalism is responsible for that we can easily establish ethical farming

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think unethical farming is present in every large system, no?

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. This isn't a "capitalism" problem, this is a "see animals as products" problem.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

It's two different problems. We started seeing animals as beings fairly recently, and the movement to actually not make them suffer is fairly new. In previous generations the reason we didn't do it properly was mainly "we don't want to", now enough of us do want it, and profit driven reality prevents it.

[–] Thor_Whale@lemmus.org 2 points 1 day ago

The same can be said for it all. Big grocery is a cancer. But so are over priced farm to table country stores. We need pricing to make sense because in the end we all lose.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 55 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I do a lot of big events at big convention hotels, and you would be shocked at how much amazing food they throw out. I know you think you know, but trust me you have no idea.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Big events are irregular things with hot, fresh food, so it doesn't surprise me. It would be nice if the food could go to a food bank, but that one would be a logistical nightmare compared sending a regular, but small amount of baked goods from a local grocery store to a local food bank.

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[–] USSMojave@startrek.website 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The fact that at this time in history we have the world's first trillionaire and we padlock the dumpsters we throw food away into is a disgrace. The future will not look kindly on us that we let this stand

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We live in an absolutely disgusting world.

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[–] arsCynic@piefed.social 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I recently went to the store to buy some pastries before closing—you can already know where I'm going with this. The pastry cupboard was empty so I went to check the lady who cleans them out. They were all in three big boxes stacked on top of each other, filled with soon to be thrown pastries. I took two and paid full price, knowing how ridiculous this is in contrast with the rest having been thrown in the trash 10 minutes later. I'd much rather go a day or two without food knowing that nothing gets wasted and no one goes hungry than what shameful consumerist nonsense we have now.

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[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

the peasant class exists to generate more money for the owner class, not the other way around.

always has been

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[–] PixellatedDave@feddit.uk 40 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I think also rich people need to have poor people otherwise they won't be seen to be rich. Also wealth = power

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[–] lordziv@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In my country I used to work at one of the largest supermarket chains and I was very pleasantly surprised to find that we donated any food that didn't sell to our local food bank called "Nourished For Nil" which would then take the ingredients and cook some meals and then you could go get a box of food from them once a week for free, no questions asked.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago

They need the poors to fight their wars and work on their factory floors.

And to focus on perceived races, while keeping women and queers in their places.

(I'm working on the last line, too long)

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