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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I have degoogled but YT is the only thing I’m stuck with. The monopoly is too much to overcome.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

For me freetube usually only works about 30% of the time.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Depending on your configuration, your experience will differ greatly.

As mentioned in another comment I made, Freetube relies heavily on either directly connecting to YouTube’s API or proxying through an Invidious instance, perhaps try a different Invidious instance, but in my case Freetube + Invidious works 9 times out of 10 for me.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 56 minutes ago

Do you have any instances you can suggest?

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I use Freetube, what does Invidious do?

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

There are two ways of using Freetube, either with YouTube’s APi or with Invidious’s APi.

When using YouTube’s APi you won’t get the same ad-blocking and proxying benefits compared to Invidious’s API.

One bonus of using Invidious is that your traffic is combined with everyone else’s who use that same instance, for example if you use https://inv.nadeko.net/ your traffic will be masked along side everyone else’s who happens to use that same instance making it harder for big corporations to track you, in this case Google.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you're on mobile, check out the Greyjay app. It's promoted (sponsored?) by Louise Rossman

[–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 1 points 27 minutes ago

Is that only on android?

[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apparently there was some fallout with futo and him

Not sure at all about the details, but yeah he definitely backed them. Not sure if he still does though

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I think he just left to go work on fulu, no bad blood as far as i'm concerned. Anyways grayjay is pretty good, and when the new newpipe comes out that might be an even better choice maybe (but who knows when that'll be?? Tell me).

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Creating an infrastructure that could potentially ingest terrabytes of data per second, and then processing it into multiple resolutions, is a massive ask.

Especially for a new site that might not ever get picked up by users, much less creators.

I think the only people that have a hope in hell of having a success at starting a youtube competitor are the owners of the big porn sites, since they are in a similar, if much smaller than youtube business with regards to infrastructure demands and processing needs. . So they have the institutional knowledge and infrastructural inertia to get started easier than anyone else on the planet. assuming they want to do a SFW video site, which they may not want to do, and it'd probably be burdened forever with right wing outrage due to any tenuous, distant connection to the porn sites (even if its just porn money or porn owners)

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

I mean, you could just switch to porn exclusively.

Hey, maybe that was the plan all along! I just wanted to understand how to fix my car or watch cat videos and now I'm watching a video where some lady is stuffing herself full of, well, everything.

Big porn wins again dammit!

[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Creating an infrastructure that could potentially ingest terrabytes of data per second, and then processing it into multiple resolutions, is a massive ask.

Yeah, but that's a bad approach.

A website that just hosts links, a torrent to video script, and a like-button that's a magnetic link is all you need to set up a youtube competitor. The creators can host their own videos, and their fans can help them. Sure there's a lot of quality of life stuff that integrating a torrent client and browser would help with like automatically using file selection to host only the resolutions you watch up to or automatically deleting videos after a certain time unless you've extra likes them, but the underlying system is functional. For steaming, do whatever peertube is doing.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, every time the topic comes up, this same idea comes up of making individuals bear the financial burden of hosting and bandwidth, without an ounce of understanding how that will never, ever, create a viable youtube alternative.

And once those problems come up, someone will have the great idea of gathering people into collectives to lower the prices and increase bargaining power.

Then after that someone will have the idea of reducing costs by moving their individual videos into the same rack, so the costs of hardware, storage, maintenance go down and stability and uptime goes up.

and before long you arrive back at a youtube like platform, and you've just become the equivalent of techbro reinventing the concept of a train for the 380th time.

[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, I'm not in networking so maybe you're right and I'm totally out of touch with the basics. Downloads don't even need to be instant. People scroll and save videos to watch later all the time. Maybe I'm ignorant, but it seems like the technology (torrent networks) already exists and this just requires slapping a pretty interface on top of it.

Honestly, it sounds more like a marketing problem than a networking problem.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Thats not a youtube alternative then. Its a torrent hub 🙄

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wasn't there some professor that started uploading actual educational non-porn lectures on pornhub a while back?

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 10 hours ago

Afaik pornhub actually pays way more than YouTube. There are also lots of people uploading SFW content to the hub.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I think I know who you are talking about, I recall seeing something about her making more money posting on pornhub than youtube because of greater advertising sharing or something.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And yet we’re having shit get censored everywhere else because aDvErTiSeRs. Clearly something doesn’t add up here.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

You make it sound nefarious, but its most likely just an ability to be more generous with the revenue sharing compared to something thats 300x its size.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but hosting your self isn't that big a deal depending on your host. At least until you get into the millions of views.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

We're talking about youtube competition, self hosting isnt ever going to compete with youtube.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just quit watching it a few months ago. No big deal, it's all crap and mindless shit anyways.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

it’s all crap and mindless shit anyways.

If you click on mindless shit, the algorithm serves you mindless shit. I get documentaries. 🤷

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I just avoid algorithms. If I want documentaries there are places for those.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Well, you made a wrong claim that I merely corrected. Watch whatever wherever you want. Doesn't change the fact that the documentary creators I follow for the vast majority only upload to YouTube and those that also upload to Nebula offer a worse experience there.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago

Lets put it another way: it really is not the youtube that was interesting 20 years ago, and you gotta think that yes, most of it is mindless shit. Or "content" which is just as bad.

Sure I could dig around and waste time trying to find gold in the sea of crap but why bother.

And yes, the algorithms do work against you, that is well documented, no matter what you click on.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

you know who else has documentaries?

PBS.

support your local public broadcasting stations, people.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

you know who else has documentaries?

PBS.

support your local public broadcasting stations, people.

And do you know which documentaries they don't have? The ones that are uploaded by their creators only to YouTube.

I watch plenty of Arte and I pay the fee but documentaries about video game speedruns etc. simply aren't on Arte (or PBS or Nebula). I watch those where they are: YouTube.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Or turn on adblockers and support the people you watch directly (donate, patreon, merch, etc). It takes like $2/yr to replace the ad revenue that you would've generated for them (something like that).

Or use the alt platforms that creators create themselves when possible.

You can't escape youtube right now (as in there is no real alternative if you stop using it all together), but you can turn on adblockers (ublock), use 3rd party clients and give something directly to creators you watch a lot.

And you can support PBS in addition if you want.