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Who would have guessed that importing overpriced fossil fuels is bad?
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Certainly not Germany and Poland. Gas cucks. I just want affordable heat. Renewables are cheaper, why are policymakers resisting cheap energy, during an energy price crisis?
The monkey's paw just curled. You've been granted a heat-wave, free of charge
nothing beat maintaining the systems that keep those in power wealthy and powerful.
Heat pumps are much bigger investment upfront
Because renewables, while cheaper, have their share of problems, the first one is that you cannot (yet and completely) store what they produce. Oil in more something like "on demand" in some aspects, people generally expect that when they want hot water they have it, not that they need to plan when to use it.
Another big problem, actually, is that renewables tends to not be available when you need them the most (this derive from the fact that for now we have limited storing capacity): wind turbines have speed limits to not break and solar panels need at least a certain exposure to produce for example.
Other sources could not be available everywhere or be economically justified.
Nobody really like to pay more, it is simply that for now oil and gas are seen as more reliable than renewables, and this offset the fact that they are more expensive.
This will change in the future, no doubts, but the solution is a lot more complex than simply saying "renewable are cheaper".
Not true: Wind turbines generate more energy in Western European winter - when we need to power electric heat pumps - and solar in Southern European summer - when we need to power A/C units.
Plus it does not matter if 2% of the time we need to fire up fossil backup generation.
Plus it is easily possible to build seasonal heat storage for multi-family houing units. Basically big tank with water and lots of insulation.
I am tired of that disinformation.
The problem is not when everything works as intended, the problem is when nothing works as intended, like during emergencies when the wind is too strong (so the turbines shut off to avoid damages) or during winter in the southern Europe where the panels are covered by snow or it rain for some consecutive days.
I understand that we cannot plan only around emergencies but we need to consider them.
LOL. Listen, here (Italy) it is already impossible to build big tanks in the middle of nowhere (basically unused fields) to avoid that rivers and streams overflow when it rains just a little more than usual causing millions of Euro of damages (last time, in September 2025 in my small city only it was 48 millions) and you want to build big tanks near houses ? Good luck with that.
The only disinformation is thinking that renewables are ready to be a drop in substitute for oil and gas. They are usefull, no doubt, but we need to solve the problem of storing all the surplus they generated. And as for now there is not really a solution that work on a large scale, which is what we need.
That'll be why nobody is saying that then. They're a useful replacement, not a substitute.
All of it? Really? And we don't need to solve this before deploying lots more to replace the burning fossils. We didn't wait to solve all the problems with burning fossils before deploying them. We've never solved many of the pollution problems, which is part of the reason we have so many problems now!
Hot sand storage.
Drops mic
And your entire argument is laid moot with battery storage. Australia has been showing they can do it at scale and still cheaper than fossil fuels.
Money.
Lobbyism.
Yeah in Central Europe we donโt have corruption, we have โจ Lobbyism โจ
Tell me you're from Eastern Europe and hate Russia without telling me you're from Eastern Europe and hate Russia
Huh?
People living in the parts of Europe that were dictatorships until ~35 years ago (everything to the east of Germany, more or less) don't like their region to be called "Eastern Europe", even though that is what everyone called it for 50 years. There was Western Europe, and Eastern Europe. But since Eastern is connotated with dictatorships, Russian occupation, poverty and things like that they've invented a new term wich is "Central Europe".
So now you'll hear people from Czechia, Slovakia, Poland, etc refer to their parts of Europe as Central, because they don't want to be called Eastern, and they especially absolutely do not want to be associated with Russia in any way. Which is completely understandable.
Never heard that before
I know, that's why I took the time to explain
Didn't Germany add shitload of renewable capacity recently?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/16/spanish-households-save-renewables-expansion-electricity-gas-prices-iran-war
In other European countries that also expanded renewables at great speed โ such as Germany, which increased its share of wind and solar in power generation from 28% to 45% in the last five years
45% of wind and solar is impressive.
Tldr: they are trying to sabotage existing transitions, like with fossil fuel boilers and the hydrogen/efuel bullshit, which is about 14x more expensive than electricity.
Source:
https://www.euronews.com/2026/05/14/contradictory-signal-germany-scraps-renewable-heating-law-just-as-heat-pumps-gain-momentum
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/hydrogen-cars-are-dead-as-projects-are-scrapped-and-refueling-prices-go-through-the-roof-221373.html
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/merz-ask-eu-drop-hard-cut-off-combustion-cars-2035-2025-11-28/
Edit: The electrification of Germany is happening in spite of the shit gov, not because of.
The progress we made so far was because of the previous government and the current one is working hard on sabotaging that as much as possible.
Fucking Merz...
Na, this is Gas-Kathis doing.
Yes, but our current Minister of Economic Affairs is all out to kill it again.
Why would you offer a nuanced point of view if people just want to shit on the system?
Sorry, won't happen again.
Perhaps it surprises you but a lot of people are such oil brained corpo shills they cannot fathom not burning the planet down to the ground. They call free energy ideologically driven in an obvious attempt at projection.
Which is to say that sadly a lot of people would never guess importing fossil fuels just to burn them might be a terrible idea actually.
Wonโt stop the tidal wave of heat pump installations though because most people actually like saving money.