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What's the ML perspective on Uyghurs? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 5 months ago by SheWasSpeaking@lemmygrad.ml to c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml

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My partner is Lebanese and one issue that has consistently come up with any discussion of Marxism (and honestly the online left as a whole) is Uyghur genocide denial. Essentially, they see it as proof of (white) western leftists being hypocrites and having a glaring Islamophobia problem. I'm inclined to defer to them, but at the same time, I've found myself often politically aligning with MLs on other issues, and I know very little about Chinese internal politics or the Uyghurs myself, so I would greatly appreciate being able to get an understanding of what the ML perspective is.

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[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

While I'm not Chinese, I've read that there have been instances, both modern and historical, of definite racism in China.

That all being said, while racism is always a horrible issue, I don't think China's issues of racism are NEARLY to the same extent or intensity as in the west.

While I'm sure that I'm generalizing, its truly remarkable how surprisingly multicultural that China is.

It seems like that Chinese people/citizens don't care where people come from (not in a malicious or arrogant way, I mean), they primarily care about who you are as a person and what your role in society is, which matters far more.

Also, I thought that China recognized roughly 57 different groups? But that might just be main ethnic groups, and I'm not doubting that there are 37 or more different minority groups, now that I think about it.

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 5 months ago

I think an important difference between how racism manifests in China vs. America is that the Communist Party almost always takes an anti-racist stance. Sure, China has race riots. The difference between China and America is that when the police and army take a side, they're defending the minorities from Han mobs, not the other way around.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

57 might be possible! I always forget the number and the actual name they use in China for it. I think it also depends on how you count but for all intents and purposes the CPC's recognized number is probably 57

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

There's ethnic groups, cultural groups, language groups and I can never remember which is which and the terms keep getting translated differently.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/vefEEG0WNUk

Every time it’s brought up I just think of the big butt sheep video and like “yes, this is definitely a people undergoing genocide. No doubt about it.”/s

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