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There's been a 73% decline in global vertebrate populations since 1970. We're in the beginning of a very serious mass extinction and it's kinda like we don't care which is interesting.
Sociopathic billionaires with all of the power to do something about it absolutely don't care if the world ends. They only care if they were on top before the game ended.
I'm not absolutely sure if. That's true, seems to be more so a function of their age. Like if i'm 92 and the world ends then not so bad, but if I'm like 38 and the world ends then that's sad.
You're very right. We're dealing with mostly rich old people who never cared about others while they were young and certainly don't now that they're about to die.
People like elon musk will be around for a good while longer and I think people need to not underestimate just how mentally ill these people are. They're not capable of caring about other people as much as themselve like normal people are. This is a key feature of sociopathic narcissism, and people like that are well equipped to traverse our economic system more successfully than anyone else because they have no morals or empathy holding them back. After enough decades of capitalism, the only ones on top are people like this and then it devolves into neo-feudalism.
If any billionaire regardless of age cared about humanity, they would use their massive power and influence to help humanity and they simply choose not to.
That's because a lot of money is being spent to keep us oblivious about it.
Not saying you're wrong but I don't see the point in letting the population collapse. It will just bounce back later and probably be far greater assuming humans don't go extinct before achieving sufficient space travel and colonies. That is also assuming we're the only ones here and this isn't like a controlled demolition of the human species by some other entity or force.
people can really just say anything they want on the internet huh?
I haven't even ruled out last Thursdayism. Reality is strange, even in the most mundane interpretation.
no no you don't understand, the billionaires want more money, the number simply must go up. and maybe they would care about the world if any of their workers would inform them of the consequences of each of their actions, but none that do stick around so the number keeps going up, fuck the consequences
Possible but they're holding summits trying to figure out how to maintain control in their bunkers when money no longer has value. I think they're pretty aware of the situation at hand.
yeah but you just said it, they feel safe with their bunkers, the rest of the world be damned
Safe until there's a revolt and they become the bunker bitch or in a worse case tomorrow's dinner. You see the issue? Can't control people with money if money no longer has value.
of course, though i bet they're working under the assumption that their defences are enough, or that they will be the last remaining humans out there. basically, hubris
greed and hubris are a powerful combo, unfortunately
Nah you need people for the transition but those are the same ex military badasses who will take control until there's a trick or which they're not dumb they're expecting a trick.
Well that's because we are the mass extinction event.
Yup, second organism to cause a mass extinction but the first to self proclaim it's intelligent.
The curse of interesting times strikes again.
I'm still pretty solid on the idea we're in an ancestor simulation or at minimum definitely not in base reality.
Whatever helps get you through it. Functionally it makes no difference. The simulation runs particles smaller than atoms and the maximum speed is still light. Our universe is too vast for us to explore and there's probably other life forms on planets too far away to matter. Our experience is insignificant in the grand scheme of things, yet the only thing we will ever do. Make it count while you're here.
I mean the probability isn't in our favor. As for us, yeah it doesn't change much. Same for a lot of epistemological arguments. Last Thursdayism, Descartes demon, Plato's cave, Chung Tzu's butterfly, solipsism, Boltzmann brains could all be bang on right on the money. I see you're taking the more so physical reality approach, even then if something like the holographic universe or some variation is correct then maybe distance doesn't exist like we think it does. If for instance we're in a black hole then there's a one to one representation of all information here in what we consider 3D space on the black hole's surface.
All the fun ideas aside I agree with you although maybe our definitions of fun may be different. That is I think the first goal is to reduce needless and avoidable suffering for all minds anywhere in existence whenever possible. Like even if it is a simulation of sorts or reality just started ten seconds ago or what I'm experiencing is a Boltzmann brain it still doesn't stop the first goal from at least being the best goal I've found so far.
Yeah that's pretty much where I landed too.