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In the defense of the North Korea outrage, they lobotomised the kid and sent the dying body back to US.
IIRC some experts said that most likely his state was causes by reaction to medicine or something. North Korea prefers to exchange American prisoners for something rather than simply kill them.
Pretty sure there were missing teeth.
Edit: not Otto. Might have been another prisoner. Or I'm confusing it with World War Z and how North Korea solved the zombie crisis by pulling everyone's teeth.
Edit edit: ok, he's the one I read about but these details aren't in wikipedia and may be suspect.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/he-totally-deformed-otto-warmbiers-11242029
Give the Americans some time.
only difference here is that the body will already be on us soil
It's bizarre to see somebody believe that not only will a former Olympic athlete be sentenced for touching paint but to honestly believe he could be beaten into brain damage and die from it.
Chances are the guy walks away scot free and then sues the US Government.
More things that you wouldn't have thought possible in polite society have been happening in recent years.
Since US was a colony.
No no, see, these folks don't count the genocide of millions and the people who suffered under street executions, illegal detention, and the destruction of families, for centuries because those people deserved it for being born wrong. Now it's happening to white people! Can you believe that? My stars! Never before! Unprecedented!
I bow to the lotus feet of the guru.
😂😭🫂
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Wait until you find out what the current regime and its supporters thinks about being able to sue for violating the constitution.
Frankly, I don't care what the buffoon thinks.
We took his name off the Kennedy building, we're suing comanies for AI racial bias, we blocked his DOJ from collecting trans medical records, and we just told his ICE to fuck off from immigration hearing locations.
The courts aren't completely corrupted yet and they are still in charge.
You sure about that? I'd lto have faith in the rule of law, but the trump admin is increasingly ignoring court orders, despite the public wins you mentioned.
I really feel like we're going to see the admin trot out the apocryphal Andrew jackson quote of 'the courts have made their decision, let them enforce it' in the next year or so.
And yet his name is off the Kennedy building and his ballroom is not open.
And yet US citizens are still being abducted, killed, disappeared, and sent off to random countries. But sure, let's all cheer about them removing his name from the Kennedy building lmao. What a joke.
(All in the name of immigration control! If only those us citizens had just sued the government I'm sure they'd still be alive!)
All fair points, but the person in question is an American native born citizen, so the ICE have no power here.
Also, US Citizens have sued and have shut down immigration detention facilities including the largest "Alligator Alcatraz".
Except that ice has been detaining and killing native born Americans? There has been so many articles about keeping American born citizens in horrible conditions, and then dropping them off in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night during freezing cold nights. Would you like some? Or are you just going to say "That's okay, because technically they're abiding the courts"
I did not know that about alligator alcatraz, that is actually very nice to hear about. It wasn't brought down because of who they were housing there, but that is besides the point.
No US Citzen has ever been killed after being held in detention by ICE.
The only native born citizens that ICE has killed (undet this admin at least) to my knowledge were Renee Good, which later led to nationwide protests and a handful of riots, and Ruben Ray Martinez. Both were fatally shot while in moving vehicles.
The man who murdered Renee Good is looking at a murder trial, but Texas grand jury has rejected indictments for Ruben's murderer (for now).
None of this has anything to do with an Olympic Athlete touching paint. Even in a hundred years the USA will never be comparable to the atrocities regularly performed by North Korea.
Quite a few actually have been, they've just all been the wrong shade of white. Here's arrests specifically https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/16/immigration-ice-arrests-propublica-white-house-deportation-immigrants-sweep/ , and the next time I see another article about an American citizen being dropped off somewhere to die, I'll be sure to respond to you with it.
Your article contains the word died, death, or killed exactly 0 times, so you're just verifiably full of shit.
Sure it's bizarre to see somebody believe that, but it's because it is so easy to believe with all the shit going on, not because it's something difficult to believe.
Given the post, these comments, and that comment score I think it isn't unrealistic to believe it's just a bunch of fucking Tankies trying to normalize North Korea.
Like yeah, the Trump admin is shit, and would have spiraled out of control if there were no resistance, but it ain't fuckin North Korea. It isn't even as bad as China.
We're saying we are seeing the end of that soon. We are being more oppressed over time
I think he has a lot less support and authority now than at the start of his term.
Yeah because he's white.
How is this fake news getting such high upvote ratio
He wasn't literally surgically lobotomized no - but he did have extremely severe neurological damage from an unknown source which put him in a vegetative state that he never regained consciousness from. If it was done by DPRK intentionally or not isn't known, but he did suffer those injuries during his time imprisoned under their supervision, and generally it's held that harm to a prisoner is the fault of the captor.
Yes, that's not "North Korea lobotomising him". Hence fake news. A lobotomy cuts off the front of the brain
It would be the first time North Korea has harmed an American in this context and it's pretty likely to be unintentional if they wanted to trade prisoners
What a tedious semantic argument. An inaccurate use of a term in an informal setting that nonetheless quite accurately describes the symptoms he experienced, is not fake news - it's not even news, it's an internet comment. It's been corrected now.
It's generally unintentional to beat someone and have them wind up in a vegetative state.
See the other comment from someone else, they were not beaten at all and the one anonymous report that he was appears to be fabricated
The beating the previous comment or is referring to isn't a real beating, it's figurative to make a point. Intentional or not, it happened and NK is responsible for the outcome. Just like the US is responsible for what happens to the foreign nationals we imprisoned.
Not what the other comment says.
Is that not what this person is saying?
I'm not sure I understand, I don't think ryannathans (or anyone else in this chain) is saying that at all?
Not from this chain no, it's one of the comments right below this chain.
I'm sorry, then I'm not sure how it's relevant here?
Actually shut the fuck up. Please.
You seem to have experience with lobotomy.
Appreciate your kind words
That's demonstrably false.
Which part?
Edit: apparently the lobotomized part.
Getting hit with the biggest "um, actually" energy from the tankie battalion 🙄