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Can we stop making fun of 9/11 here?
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I just find this very reductive. Just because someone was working in the WTC doesn't make them the bourgeoisie. Maybe I don't understand class distinction well (actually I know I don't), but I find takes like these wild and dehumanizing.
on hexbear we kind of play up our 9/11 banter to contrast with the way most westerners talk about the event. It's just frustrating when people seem to not give a shit what came before or after 9/11 and have no perspective on the magnitude of suffering we have caused. Around 4.5 million people have died due to America's post-9/11 wars. Countless more died from all the shit we stirred up in the decades prior. We also funded, armed, and trained the same dudes who attacked us. The whole fucking thing is blowback, but most westerners either don't know or don't care.
Thanks for the context and the link to the report. I definitely agree with most of what you said, the damage that America has caused is magnitudes more than 9/11 and actions taken by America continue to contribute to radicalization. I can see why someone would say that America deserved 9/11, but I guess what doesn't sit right with me is joking that the actual individuals impacted by 9/11 deserved it or trivializing their deaths. Just like the people who were impacted by Americas unjustified actions in the Middle East didn't deserve it. I do share the frustration though, so thanks for the response.
This is a pretty cool reply tbh
this post has been fact-checked by a true patriot
The initial deaths were about 3000. I think they gave 2000 as a rough estimate of the proportion that were businessmen and other finance ghouls.
Heres a very good starter guide on the subject of Class distinction that you may find useful.
https://youtu.be/Nd7cohTdRAo
Thanks for sending this, I have actually seen this one before. I really enjoy Second Thought!