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What? HOW did you get that? The lesson is that if you get caught in a pattern of obvious lies, your credibility will be shot and people won't believe your word even if the next time you tell the truth. I struggle to imagine how you managed to misunderstand an anecdote meant for children.
The boy who cried wolf is a simple progression of cause to effect. Again, it's meant to be so simple and intuitive that a child can understand it. In comparison, Cassandra is ancient mythology that is centered on divine intervention. If a child asks why nobody believed her and you tell "because God made it so", or Serstan forbid go into the rabbit hole of institutionalized sexism (and try to apply a modern Western perspective to an ancient Greek story), how do they draw a morale from that? That's why it isn't told as frequently.
Or maybe it's because Peter's tale has a clear lesson about lying too much while Cassandras tale has no clear lesson. Because what's the lesson that even a 5 year old would understand? That telling the truth is useless if nobody listens? That's a bad lesson.
The lesson that men won’t believe women is a powerful one and one that we still teach our daughters.
At least other women do.
The story doesn't say men don't believe her, the story says nobody believes her which includes other women. You're applying a different lesson to the story.
How many times have rape victims been disbelieved? Women not believed by larger society?
This is a cautionary tale of patriarchy and going against men.
Cassandra is cursed to never be believed because she refuses to have sex with Apollo.
Maybe you're not aware but male rape victims are not only believed less than female rape victims but are also usually more stigmatized and blamed for getting raped.
Sounds to me like the moral of the story is to submit to men who lust for you or you will get cursed.
The patriarchy harms both men and women, boys and girls.
Men have the power to punish those that go against them because of patriarchy. This includes people of all genders that do so.
And now it's far from a lesson you could explain to a five year old which was my original point.
No, children should be taught, age appropriately, that not all authority figures are trustworthy. That there are scenarios they won’t be believed and what to do about it. They should be taught about the inequalities in our society and that includes how the patriarchy punishes everyone.
I won’t send my child blind into the world.
Except the lesson is that regardless of what you do you won't be listened to. In fact if we go exactly by the tale she isn't telling the truth, she's telling truthful prophecies so she literally couldn't prove the statements she knew were true.
So the lesson you mentioned is not the one in the story.
Fair enough. My original lesson was wrong and got clarified with this discussion.
If both stories are gender neutral, it’s more or less the same meaning. Why are you even focusing on the genders?
You’re making irrelevant details important so you can be mad.
It’s a made up story about gods, I’m sure most of the world can relate to that situation eh?
The person is literally cursed, it’s not because they’re female, it’s because they are cursed. There’s always ways to interpret stories differently I guess.
Cassandra is cursed because she dares to say ‘No’ to having sex with Apollo.
No, non invented stories with non god or mythology creatures always have a more meaningful and relatable message.
It’s nothing to do with misogyny lmfao. It’s a hardly believable story, its gods. Come on.
Why did you edit my quote?
No you removed a chunk of it and changed the meaning.
The parenthesis I don’t care about, but you are changing the entire meaning by doing that as well.
So if you’re doing that a comment, no wonder you’re having issues comprehending the meaning of other stories.
Fucking yikes buddy.
Are many people cursed by gods in real life that you know of?
You sure about that?
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Try living near wildlife? It’s a constant concern.
Man I live in a city of almost 1.5 million and we have wildlife in the middle of our city.
Sounds like you’re the one with a backwards world view. Most places have wildlife, so of course I would assume that way.
Are you seriously taking the metaphor THAT specific? Yeesh.
The story of Cassandra is retold pretty often. Ripley from Alien is a perfect example.
And yes it does have to do with misogyny.
Ripley refused to have sex.. With the xenomorph?
She wasn’t believed by the crew because she was a woman.