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[–] rzadkie@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

To all you fucking reddit atheists

Atheism without class struggle is just white supremacy

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 27 minutes ago

New Atheism and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

I fucking loathe these dipshits

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

Yeah you hear that all of you non white athiests! You just secretly hate yourself according to this idiot.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

To all you fucking reddit atheists. Atheism without class struggle is just white supremacy

To you:

No, it's not, you are silly

The audacity of Facebook believers like yourself never ceases to amaze me.

[–] rzadkie@lemmy.world -1 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago) (1 children)

I would call you illiterate but then I risk another paragraph of you arguing that you know better than english dictionary

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

Yes, we all know how much you despise paragraphs, it's not your fault, really. You never had a chance.

I'm happy that you can manage full sentences from time to time, well done.

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 11 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

If by atheism you mean anti-islamism you might have a case. 'lacking belief in a god is inherently white' is a fucking wild take.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

The resurrection of ‘new atheism’ - As white supremacy reigns supreme in the US, a new book seeks to bring back to the fore one of its ideological branches.

Their works – Dawkins’s, The God Delusion, Harris’s, The End of Faith, Dennett’s, Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon, and Hitchens’s, God Is Not Great – were all essentially written as a blind reaction to the 9/11 terrorist attacks and all zoomed in on Islam and the Muslim world, demonstrating a remarkable ignorance of both.

Needless to say, none of the four was able to offer any serious historical understanding of this terror act, why it happened, what it meant, or how to prevent similar acts of wanton violence in the future. Nor did they make any intellectually challenging or noteworthy contribution to the millennia-old debate on belief and disbelief in God.

That publishers have chosen to resurrect, today, this 12-year-old Islamophobic backslapping session advertised as a “landmark discussion about modern atheism” is indeed quite telling. With white supremacy currently flourishing in the US and elsewhere, a book on “new atheism” – a pseudo-intellectual movement that has heavily contributed to its rise – would surely sell.

Before proceeding any further, let us be clear: Atheism as such is a perfectly healthy proposition and the world, including the Muslim part of it, has never been devoid of atheists – all the power to them.

Across religions and cultures, there are decent and reasonable atheists, as there are equally decent and reasonable believers, who can and should openly engage in debate about religion and the belief in God without succumbing to hatred and convictions in one’s supremacy. Such open and honest conversations are indeed healthy for any community or nation and should be encouraged.

So who are these four “new atheist” crusaders (yes, they may deny it, but they are indeed very much the product of the white Western Christian crusader tradition)? They are all white older men, who have never embarked on studying Islam, do not speak Arabic – the language of the Qur’an – and certainly have no special insight into any Muslim community on earth. They are, literally, illiterate.

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

If I'm trying to make a point with a single bolded sentence I would maybe choose my words carefully and not use the term for a broad group if I'm talking about a specific subset. They didn't say 'the new-atheism movement' they said 'atheism'.

[–] rzadkie@lemmy.world 2 points 29 minutes ago (1 children)

If I was ignorant on how fascism have been again entrenching itself in western society over the last 20 years, on how and through which pipelines ideologies were spread I would at least stay silent instead of trying to pull out semantics :v

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 1 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

So I guess by your logic it's fair to say Islam is terroristic. Obviously distinguishing between the broader Islamic community and boko haram or al qaeda is just semantics.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 minutes ago

This is about how Atheism can (and has) be used for colonialism, not that it necessarily follows or must be an integral part of it.

Ironically the New Atheist movement primarily just recycles crusader-age Christian propaganda

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

They are, literally, illiterate.

That's not what illiterate means. If that was the case, every person on Earth who doesn't speak Arabic and study Islam would be illiterate... which is of course completely ridiculous, and bigoted, for that matter.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 minutes ago

It's like becoming a "China critic" without speaking any Chinese or having any concept of Chinese culture but instead repeating racist stereotypes about Chinese people you saw on Fox News.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Maybe you should leave the west for a bit.

[–] rzadkie@lemmy.world 2 points 25 minutes ago

west is very welcome to leave and can do it whenever it pleases, yet for some reason it chooses not to... peculiar isn't it?

[–] BigMike@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] rzadkie@lemmy.world -3 points 5 hours ago

I could interpret this in the following ways:

  • a genuine but poorly articulated curiousness
  • a mockery by a vain person that took an idea, never examined it beyond surface glances and then takes pride in their smug ignorance

Which way then?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Atheism is simply the lack of a belief in a god.

I'm not sure where you're getting all this other weird baggage

[–] rzadkie@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Everything exists in a vacuum it seems.....

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Frans Fanon - A DYING COLONIALISM

We have seen how colonial society, the colonial administration, perceives the veil, and we have sketched the dynamics of the efforts undertaken to fight it as an institution and the resistances developed by the colonized society. At the level of the individual, of the private European, it may be interesting to follow the multiple reactions provoked by the existence of the veil, which reveal the original way in which the Algerian woman manages to be present or absent.

For a European not directly involved in this work of conversion, what reactions are there to be recorded? The dominant attitude appears to us to be a romantic exoticism, strongly tinged with sensuality. And, to begin with, the veil hides a beauty. A revealing reflection-among others of this state of mind was communicated to us by a European visiting Algeria who, in the exercise of his profession (he was a lawyer), had had the opportunity of seeing a few Algerian women without the veil. These men, he said, speaking of the Algerians, are guilty of concealing so many strange beauties. It was his conclusion that a people with a cache of such prizes, of such perfections of nature, owes it to itself to show them, to exhibit them. If worst came to worst, he added, it ought to be possible to force them to do so.

A strand of hair, a bit of forehead, a segment of an "overwhelmingly beautiful" face glimpsed in a streetcar or on a train, may suffice to keep alive and strengthen the European's persistence in his irrational conviction that the Algerian woman is the queen of all women.

But there is also in the European the crystallization of an aggressiveness, the strain of a kind of violence before the Algerian woman. Unveiling this woman is revealing her beauty; it is baring her secret, breaking her resistance, making her available for adventure. Hiding the face is also disguising a secret; itis also creating a world of mystery, of the hidden. In a confused way, the European experiences his relation with the Algerian woman at a highly complex level. There is in it the will to bring this woman within his reach, to make her a possible object of possession. This woman who sees without being seen frustrates the colonizer. There is no reciprocity. She does not yield herself, does not give herself, does not offer herself.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago

No, not a god. All gods.