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Billionaires are ruining it. Don't let the NYT shift the blame.
The boomers that vote for far right grifters and are happy to pull up the ladder behind themselves certainly deserve a share of the blame too.
Nearly half of boomers have no retirement savings. Blame them all you want, but the problem is the rich. Always has been. Always will be.
Most boomers gleefully enabled the system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics
If by that you mean less than 44% of boomers didn't vote for Trump, and over 54% of Gen Z didn't vote for Trump, then you might be correct.
Which part do you think was a lie? Half of all boomers being broke, or the rich being the problem?
Oh its rich people. And the overwhelming majority of them being boomers.
Musk and Zuckerberg aren't boomers.
And? There's other rich people out there
Silent Generation, Boomers, Gen X, or Millennials: which of these has the most wealth?
Do any of them have over 35% of the nation's wealth?
Thank you.
It seems that according to your chart:
in 1990, baby boomers had perhaps less than 20% of the wealth—presumably early boomers such as Trump or Clinton had most of it, but over 50% were Silent Generation (such as Larry Ellison) and earlier. Also Papa Bush was President, and Thatcher and Mulroney were PMs (UK and Canada respectively).
in 2000, baby boomers had perhaps perhaps 40% of the wealth, and the oldest Gen Xer was 35. Clinton was President, Blair and Chrétien were PMs (UK and Canada respectively).
in 2010, baby boomers probably had over 50% of the wealth—though probably less than 55%—and I'd say perhaps 70% of millennials were of voting age. Obama—a Boomer—was President, Brown and then Cameron—both Gen Xers—were PMs of UK, while Harper—a boomer—lead minority government in Canada (Michael Ignatieff—a liberal and Liberal Russian-Canadian intellectual Boomer was Opposition leader).
in 2020, baby boomers probably still had over 50% of the wealth—though probably less than 56%—with Gen X and Millennials having almost 25% of the wealth with Silent and earlier have perhaps less than 15%. Trump was President and Boris Johnson was PM—both boomers. Gen Xer Trudeau was Canadian PM. This was the big Covid-19 year.
in 2025 (Q4), baby boomers probably still had over 50% of the wealth, with Gen X and Millennials having perhaps 35% of the wealth with Silent and earlier have perhaps more than 10%. Trump was President, Keir Starmer (another Boomer) and Mark Carney (another Gen Xer) were PMs.
In 2028, the youngest Boomer will be 63 years old, while the oldest (such as Trump) will be 82. If the perception is most are sedentary fat asses on their electric scooters, and that this is indeed unhealthy, then many will die off by then. If one of these is not true, then many will be alive and will perhaps give some hope for those younger who maybe be wishing to greet the 22nd century alive and healthy, or at least relatively healthy.
From 2010 to 2015 Gen X and Millennials went from about 8% of the wealth, to about 35%, or about 4.375x or about 4.3% per annum. At this rate by 2028, they will have about 48% of the wealth, or get to 50% in about 9 years—2035. At this point, the youngest Boomer will be 88, the youngest Gen Xer 70, the youngest Millennial 54, the youngest Zoomer 21, and perhaps a third of Generation Alpha be of voting age.
I predict that in 2028, the Presidency will go to either J.D. Vance, or a centrist Democrat—perhaps Newsom—and 2032 will probably go to the incumbent—In the past 100 years only 7 first-term incumbents were succeeded by another, over the course of less than 22 years: 2 were in the 1920s, one was assassinated, one was a Democrat who lost to Reagan, one arguably had his vote split by a billionaire "outsider" who regarded both parties with contempt ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naHdnyogJjA 1:02 ), and one who was/is an octogenarian.
(FWIW, I predicted Dubya would win in 2004, Obama in 2008, again in 2012, Clinton in 2016, and around Sept/Oct 2020, that Biden would win. 😁)
The population that voted for them even though it hurts them are still at fault, even if they didn't write the billionaire backed legislation.
Well I can tell you for sure it wasn't only boomers that voted for them.
I'm just trying to emphasize that this is a class war, not a generational war.
As someone who's phone banked in plenty of primaries: It's boomers. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Couldn't possibly be that only boomers would answer the phone. Because you know those younger generations are totally known for answering calls from unknown numbers and participating in surveys.
I didn't only speak to Boomers. I spoke to plenty of younger people as well. It was the Boomers who were angry when I was campaigning for someone other than Clinton. It was the Boomers who were angry when I was campaigning for someone other than Biden.
If you don't believe me then try it in the next primaries. Campaign for an anti-billionaire, pro-worker, anti-genocidal candidate and come back and tell me about your experience.
Not all boomers. Sorry, blaming "boomers" is rather naive.
I've been around long enough to remember boomers blaming all the things on Silent/Greatest Generation. They had all the answers and could not wait to take over.
Just sayin' - I'm starting to see a pattern here.
The problem with boomers, though, is that they formed such a large voting block that their generation has been able to steer the political system in the US. We started seeing change in the 90s and it was gaining momentum in the early 00s, but the reactionaries went full tilt on fascism as a result.
This is a gross oversimllified take so please don't think it's meant as any kind of scholarly dissertation.
Gen Y is the largest generation right now.
All of voting age. Followed by Gen Z (not all of voting age - yet), then Gen X, then boomers.
I mean, what happened in the past as you describe as a result of the huge numbers of boomers is entirely possible. I'm Gen X, so believe it when I say I have my share of resentments about how we were overshadowed nearly our entire lives by boomers, and then the spotlight jumped right to Gen Y, but all because of numbers, and not any unique traits to either Gen Y or boomers or to Gen X.
But at this point, blaming boomers for what is happening now is rather....interesting, I have to say. They are the 4th largest group.
They have most of the wealth and the power. They're the ones doing the fascism. Every generation is doing their part on that fucked up front but the buck (literally) starts and stops with the boomers for the most part.
White people have the most wealth and power.
City people have the most wealth and power.
Men have the most wealth and power.
Non-Indigenous people have the most wealth and power.
Yeah, you're getting there.
So is it fucking white people, fucking city people, fucking white men, and fucking settlers?
Gen Y numbers are bigger right now, as a voting bloc.
Also, Gen Y is poised to be the richest generation on record: https://fortune.com/2025/03/28/millennials-richest-generation-on-record-great-wealth-transfer-from-baby-boomers/
I suspect all that wealth transfer may change....something...but I'm not in any way convinced that Gen Y is any better than the boomers, as a group. In fact, they have no real equivalent activism of the 60s generation from what I can tell. In fact, I'm almost certain Gen Y doesn't have some magical quality that the boomers don't and that they'll make things better just by dint of being a different generation with all the wealth and all the numbers....I'd love to be proven wrong, though.
You read fortune? I can go ahead and ignore you now, thanks for that out. Fucking boomers.
I don't read Fortune.
Also Gen X and I don't blame them for the current state of things other than them being responsible for the groundwork that led to where we are and blocking progress as long as they did.
What kind of loser spends their free time going around defending boomers?
Now you're calling us losers?
In the same vein, you're all over this thread exclusively shitting on boomers and ignoring all other possibilities.
Looks like Astro turfing to me.
How is it astroturfing when boomers hold most of the power in most of the world governments and most of the wealth to boot? Also only tankies care to astroturf on lemmy, there aren't enough people here to give a shit but propagandists gonna propagandize.
I'm all over this thread telling people to vote for anti-billionaire, pro-worker, anti-genocidal candidates in the primaries because there are too many pro-billionaire, anti-worker, pro-genocidal politicians in office. You don't think it's Boomers voting for those people in the primaries? Who do you think is electing those people?
Not all men energy.
🙄
Engaging in ageism and inter-generational nonsense is just falling for the red herring.
Boomers that aren't part of the problem aren't offended by generalizations. Look in the mirror. You wanna defend landlords next?
They might be annoyed more than offended.
"Oh no I'm annoyed my generation is largely responsible for the destruction of the world."
One of Bill Maher's better videos—he even praises Greta Thunberg:
New Rule: OK, Zoomer | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYSLyvbR_1w
7:20
https://youtu.be/RYSLyvbR_1w?t=395 (cued)
"I wish, your generation was better than mine: I really do, but the sad truth is, we're completely the same: lots of talk, and at the end of the day, hopelessy, seduced and addicted, to pigging out on convenience, luxury, and consumption."
I suggest you try phone banking for an anti-billionaire candidate in a primary election. Your take on Boomers will become informed real fast.
I didn't say all boomers. I very specifically said which ones i meant.
Where?
Who's voting in primaries for the kinds of politicians who refuse to take on billionaires?