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sometimes i feel very bad for the compatible/anti communist left because they will find out the Hard Way. (lemmygrad.ml)

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even if anti communist left is very useful to the empire and often collaborators with it, the truth is that they were/are/will be prosecuted too just like the tankies/”authoritarians”/communists/stalinists/leninists they hate so much.

i feel a bit bad for liberals too. theyre so caught up in anticommunism that they view nazis as participants in political freedom and democracy while only communists are the evil ones. however, they dont realize that they were also very much victimized by fascism and their enemies want to kill them, not engage in an election. this is why people defending Graham Platner are so stupid. why do you want to vote for someone not recognizing symbols that killed you too? liberals also saw death under the Totenkopf

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[–] PunkMonk@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I sympathise with most of humanity, I truly believe most people are capable of good if their essential needs are met, they are educated well and some sort of prevention of promoting reactionary politics is in place. I also think a lot of anti-communists if they understood what communism really is, would be in support of it. After all, that's kind of what happened to me.

In a certain way I can still sympathise with those on the far-right because they like all people are suffering and they have gone down a path where they believe they are doing something beneficial for themselves and 'their people' all the while making themselves actually suffer even more. It's not sympathy in a way of, "oh you poor little nazi", more like, "you fucking idiot can't you see none of this is really helping you, you could've been someone good, you could've left a great legacy and this is who you chose to be?!"

Still, sadistic behaviour I don't sympathise over, no matter what that still needs to be punished in some form, and my ideal way would be through a long-term, tough rehabilitiative prison sentence.

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

most people are capable of good

I've been thinking a lot recently about the sinister aspect to American kindness, mainly in that its usually used as a means to be awful. Like there was a lot of 'good' and 'kind' people in Nazi Germany, but they where still going to use that kindness to deport a neighbor for being an undesirable. Sometimes the boot comes with a smile.

Its structures and the unseen hands above us that guide us into this, I dont know where im going with this really. I agree most people are good, I just dont know what good that does the rest of us.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 days ago

I think it mainly matters insofar as understanding that 1) people are capable of change, and 2) because most of them are capable of good, that's a reason not to give up on trying to change them when it gets hard.

However, this also needs to be understood holistically. Trying to change somebody's superstructure (beliefs, etc.) without their base changing at all (their job, home life, etc.) can be Sisyphean depending on the extent to which their day to day life is more or less okay and they feel they have a lot to lose by changing their beliefs.

I mean, look at how the right pipelines people toward fascism. They aren't targeting the comfy gated community liberals. They're targeting the miserable disenfranchised people who feel like they have no future and are desperate for something that seems like it will give them one. We need to make it clear people can have a future with a vanguard party.