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Calling alcohol and nicotine the first substances that most people abuse when caffeine exists is the biggest win in propaganda history.
No one has ever said “man I love coffee, I should try ecstasy next!” Lol
nobody has said it because the same person never sold both
if you had to go to the ecstasy guy to buy your coffee too, then you'd be much more likely to try ecstasy as well
What? I’m confused at what point you’re trying to make lol
imagine a scenario, coffee is illegal. you can't buy it in a normal shop, but the same guy that sells every other illegal substance has it. and you have to go to that guy to buy some coffee
even though coffee is not similar in its effect to any harder drug by going out to buy it you're gaining the skill of obtaining illegal substances, and also put yourself in a place where you can get a variety of them
as you're buying your coffee your drug dealer tells you "try this, it'll make you feel really good" and you know what? society's already lied to you about coffee being bad, maybe they're lying about the ecstasy thing too, you already trust this guy, he's been selling you good coffee, so might as well try something new and exciting too eh?
and to be even more blunt, what i'm trying to say is that it's not the substance itself that makes a drug be a "gateway" it's the way you obtain it
if weed was perfectly legal and sold freely then it would not longer be a gateway drug, because as you try it you don't gain the experience and skill of obtaining illegal substances, nor do you get placed in a position where you can grab something extra with your purchase
Damn dude that’s a lot of text but I can’t take anyone seriously who thinks coffee can in any way shape or form lead to drug use lmao idc how well thought out your thesis is, it’s an insane hypothesis.
Caffeine has plenty of health benefits also. Forcing the working class to rely on it to survive is bad, but whatever you’re saying is ridiculous.
i suggest you actually read what i wrote, instead of making yourself look like a fool
You don't know my life
I'm sure more than a few people have said "coffee ain't doin' it for me anymore; I should try cocaine or meth," though.
Unable to cite sources on this, I swear I'm not pulling it out of my ass and I did hear it on broadcast news like in the early 00's...but adderal is (or at least, was) the most abused prescription drug by "soccer moms", so, I wouldn't be surprised.
You know anyone that's never had coffee before they've tried x?
Know anyone that’s never had pizza before they tried heroin?
Pretty sure milk is the ultimate gateway drug.
Casein
Coffee isn’t really a mind-altering drug in the same way, and people take it for it’s effects recreationally. Getting drunk, though? It’s not for me, but people do that for fun, and then look to other ways to have fun in the same kinda way. All the sudden…
It 100% is a mind-altering drug, a body-altering one too. You can get super fucked up from caffeine, and overdose to a point of death (which you can't with cannabis). Caffeine has little effect on me and many others but it has major effect on a big part of humanity (and other living beings). Some can't drink coffee or energy drinks because it fuckes them up so much, and others get so addicted that they ruin their health from it.
There is a whole merchandise category about people not being able to function without coffee but I've never seen a mug that says "don't talk to me unless I've bumped a rail"
That’s mostly just people not having a personality outside of the priducts that they conume.
Picturing that on some stockbroker's desk
I didn't drink coffee until I was thirty.
How about soda?
Not by choice. I guess in a float, but root beer isn't caffeinated. I preferred herbal tea. I was a very edgy child.
lots of tea has caffeine in it
You just scan statements for things to support what you already believe,don't you? Do you realize how ridiculously fascist that is?
They specifically said herbal tea, which in general doesn't have caffeine.