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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't see how that could work. Water cooling is just so much more effective.

A 1 GW reactor operating at 35% thermal efficiency is dumping out ~~650 MW~~ 2 GW of heat (Edit when I realized the nameplate capacity of a reactor is its electrical output, not its total power). It's hard to see how you can put that heat somewhere in the ground at a continuous rate and maintain some kind of equilibrium.

Evaporative cooling can handle roughly 2400 joules/g of water evaporated, so 1 MW (1 MJ/s) of heat could translate into about 416 g of water evaporated each second. That's what those cooling towers are doing in the stereotypical image of a nuclear power plant.

Meanwhile, if you're allowed to dump the waste heat by discharging warmer water than you take in, water can take on 4.184 J / °C g, so 1 MW would raise the temperature of about 240 kg of water by °C per second.

That's a lot of water used to cool these plants, but there's really nothing that can compete with water at these scales. That's why these plants are next to plentiful water, like on riverbanks next to rivers that have 100-10,000 cubic meters of water per second flowing by. Evaporate just 1 cubic meter (1,000 kg) of water per second for cooling 2.4 GW of heat.

Or, even without evaporative cooling, you could dump about 4 MJ of heat into each cubic meter of water that passes by and only raise it by a single 1°C.

So when the rivers are already running hot or with low water levels, there's really nothing else a power plant could do to expel/reject all the heat it's generating.