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[–] PepperoniNipple@lazysoci.al 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

This Jefffrey Epstein Class Supporter/Member talking point is so old and bad. Those rapists and killers LOVE it when they make you think it's a scarcity problem, but it is not, it's an administration problem, and it's so easy for people to see that, here are some:

  • There are currently over 14 million unused housing units in the USA, and around 770k homeless people. This post is literally a few posts above from this one, "Sen. Warnock's ban on private equity firms buying single-family homes becomes federal law" where a socialist (or democratic socialist, I don't care about semantics like that, people already know what you mean) policy stopped a greedy corpo from owning more than 72,000 homes by outbiding families with cash offers and then raising home prices/rents significantly for everyone. That's literally what people want: affordable housing. There is no scarcity here. The top 1% bought all the homes and they want you to work much harder to get one, otherwise, die in silence.

  • We all can see how the USA made it a law to NOT FEED the homeless. You see restaurants take out massive bags of trash full of good food, just to throw them to the trash bin, or worse, the government puts spikes on places the homeless sleep on, to shoo them away instead of investing in something to help them properly and humanely. There is absolutely NO SCARCITY OF FOOD OR WATER. There is more than enough. It's just that the top 1% can control who gets access to it, and who doesn't, and that's what they've been doing for so long, especially to Africa and Cuba right now. Israel is doing it to Gaza and Lebanon while I type this too. A lot of Palestinians and Cubans are blaming their own government for it too, which is the goal of these blockades and violence, to "conquer" the people and land through displacement and financial pressure that does get millions of innocent people killed in silence; indirect kills, through starvation and heavy psychological depression. In Mexico, the USA arms and benefits the cartels the most. The Iron River, George Bush's Operation Fast & Furious/ATF Gunwalking Scandal, Project Gunrunner, the guns they use, their biggest customers, all American. It keeps us in fear, and we do cheap labor to get out of here. We get exploited under the threat of being deported, and then we die in silence, after living a very mediocre and poor life surrounded by racist assholes who got taught for their entire childhood that we are the bad ones. That Cubans are the bad ones. That black people are the bad ones. That illegal immigrants are the bad ones. Women, LGBTQ, DEI... Nah, dog. None of them decided wages or wars, people with capital did, and they love it when we fight sideways instead of looking up.

  • It seems there is no scarcity of bombs, of death and destruction, right? That's fine to you? For the government to spend over 25+ trillion dollars in the military over the past decade, instead of doing it to combat something more meaningful like World Hunger? World Hunger only needs about 93 billion USD a year to fix it (it's the highest reported estimate I found). Over a decade, it'd be 930 billion, not even a single trillion. That means, we need less than 4% of the American military budget to fix World Hunger for a decade, enough for those third-world countries to develop the tech they need to become self-sustaining. But we don't invest in that, we instead invest in bombing children in the Middle East and exploit Latin/South Americans. For decades now, that's what Americans and many other countries have paid for with their taxes. This is global. This is the final stage of Capitalism: stomping the weaker to please the strongest. All that child labor used to make the phone or hardware you're using right now. All the people living like modern slaves in assembly factories just to please your whims while you play videogames in your cold bedroom, with snacks beside you and whatnot.

  • The USA only has 335 million people and it's already struggling harder than China or India, which have 1.4 billion people each. China has a land mass of 9.1 million km2, the USA has 8.3 million km2, and India only has 2.9 million km2 and still kicking America's ass in administration. The so-called "#1 country in the world" is losing to the Indians and the Chinese in administrating their land and resources? How come?

  • How about we look at how some countries managed Covid? Here:

    • The US - 3,596 deaths per million with a population size of 335 million (Massive L).
    • UK - 3,404 deaths per million with a population size of 68 million (Massive L).
    • Canada - 1,424 deaths per million with a population size of 39 million (Massive L).
    • Mexico - 2,605 deaths per million with a population size of 130 million (Massive L, no mames).
    • China - 85 deaths per million with a population size of 1.42 billion
    • India - 374 deaths per million with the largest population size in the world, 1.45 billion.
    • Indonesia - 581 deaths per million with the population size that follows the USA in the global ranking, 285 million.

How the fuck is America doing a worse job than India, Indonesia or China in managing their resources and people? There are so many other countries that also humiliate the richest countries just like this, so. These 4 are just the top 4 most populated in the world.

The USA, alongside Mexico, both lose 20,000 and 30,000+ people every year to gun violence/homicides. Unfair, violent deaths. While the majority of the outside world barely reach 500 people a year. Last time I checked, places like the UK, China and even Iran are 6x times safer than the USA, statistically speaking. Your chances of dying in the USA or Mexico are exponentially higher than most countries in the world. Is there a scarcity of bullets and stupidity? It seems not.

There is no scarcity of anything. Point one. Water? Rice? Food? Sand? Electricity? Air? None. Probably only oil, and that'd not be a bad thing imo, it'd finally push us to renewables. So, what exactly is the scarcity you two are talking about?

You do have a point, that planet Earth is finite, we will be forced to control our size and consumption. But as of today, that is not a reality yet. Overpopulation was a massive talking point during the early 2000s, but it turned out to be exaggerated. It is not the same as Climate Change either, this is different:

"The panic around overpopulation in the late 1990s and early 2000s was the peak of a mathematical scare that began in the late 1960s, heavily driven by a theory known as Malthusianism (named after economist Thomas Malthus). In 1968, Stanford professor Paul Ehrlich published The Population Bomb, which predicted that hundreds of millions of people would starve to death in the 1970s and 1980s because human population was growing exponentially, while food production could only grow linearly. When the world population crossed 6 billion right at the turn of the millennium in 1999, the media, global think tanks, and educational systems went into overdrive predicting imminent resource depletion, ecological collapse, and mass famine by the mid-2000s.

Why the Panic Deflated: The Green Revolution.

The overpopulation models turned out to be drastically wrong because they underestimated human innovation. Thanks to the Green Revolution, like advancements in high-yield crops, synthetic fertilizers, automated irrigation, and genetic engineering, global food production actually outpaced population growth. We didn't run out of food; we got incredibly good at manufacturing it at scale."

We just need to invest more in education and our health, not on wars to cull ourselves down and "make up room for others" like Capitalism has us doing right now. Teachers are heavily underpaid, most that stay do it for the love of the game. We need to incentivize them with money, though, not feelings. Capitalism sucks, and anyone who supports it in the current state of the world also sucks. They value Capital (money) over the Community or being Social. They are not human anymore.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Wow. That's... a lot. How long did it take you to write this, and why?

We live in a world of short-form communication. I'll be honest, I used an LLM to summarize what you wrote, not because I didn't try to read through it, but because I honestly couldn't fully understand the point you were trying to make.

After going through it, I think the core disagreement comes down to a misunderstanding of what scarcity means in an economic sense. Scarcity is not simply whether there are enough homes compared to the number of homeless people, or whether there is enough food or water in the world.

Scarcity is the reality that we have finite resources: energy, time, labor, money, materials, and production capacity. Every economic or political system, whether socialist, communist, capitalist, or authoritarian, has to decide how those limited resources are allocated. Some systems handle that allocation better than others, and some fail spectacularly, but the underlying issue of scarcity still exists.

I think what you're actually discussing is distribution and access to resources rather than scarcity itself. Those are related topics, but they are not the same thing.

I also have no idea why Epstein was brought up at the beginning of the response or how it connected to the argument being made.

If you'd like to continue the discussion, I would appreciate keeping the responses a little shorter and more focused so they're easier to engage with. I'm doing this entirely from my phone, and extremely long responses are difficult to work through.