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    [–] TheGingerNut@piefed.blahaj.zone 80 points 3 days ago (3 children)
    [–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

    I know it. I'm literally typing this on a Raspberry Pi. I used to run Arch Linux on it, but Arch Linux on ARM has severe issues. It'll literally go months with no package updates.

    One day I'll get brave and switch it to Gentoo. Just need to put together a build server first.

    The maintainer for ALARM literally went on vacation and never came back. All commits are automations on the GitHub account. That's why Asahi switched to Fedora.

    [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I have had great success running NixOS on my Pi. You can build software on your main computer and remote deploy with SSH :)

    [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Does the cross compilation work fine? I've had some issues in the past building on macOS for x64.

    [–] Urist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

    Yes. I only have one extra line in my configuration:

    boot.binfmt.emulatedSystems = [ "aarch64-linux" ];
    
    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
    [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    It's been a while. I can't even really remember which language. Now that I think of it, it might have been C#.

    [–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Core. I'm a software architect, not a musician πŸ’–

    [–] Quatlicopatlix@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

    Yocto and compile it all yourself. Arch people might think they are cool because they have to use a console to install their de but creating the devicetree for your board and then only get a console over a serial connection or ssh is the true linux experience.

    [–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 6 points 3 days ago

    SteamOS on the Frame may soon alleviate some of those woes, given it's based on Arch and has an ARM processor iirc. Can't hurt, anyhow.

    [–] johnnei@lemmy.johnnei.org 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Usually those are from python rebuilds which clog the other packages for weeks at a time. Maybe they could use your build server.

    [–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    Python rebuilds don't cause (noticeable) problems for AMD64 Arch Linux.

    And any time anyone offers any kind of help on the Arch Linux Arm forums to try to help resolve the issue, the admins ignore and/or lock the thread. They're not open to help and the people on the forums are super frustrated about it.

    [–] johnnei@lemmy.johnnei.org 2 points 2 days ago

    They're literally a major cause of not getting package updates (even on standard arch they occasionally hold updates due to it), if that's unnoticeable then so be it.

    And yeah, I stopped trying to participate on the forums. Never managed to even get a response there. Would be great if they would be welcoming support in any shape (or even consistent communication when the build server is gonna be clogged for a while again so they don't need to annoyingly answer the same questions...)

    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I want to quit my day job so I can focus on ARM power mode support in Linux

    [–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

    I would like you to.

    [–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I wish I was smart enough to even consider this

    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Good news: you could just financially support me!

    [–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Bad news… no couldn’t lol. Bearly got myself!

    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    That's OK, I can just take everything left over and whatever else you can scrape together after making a number of hard sacrifices.

    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    ARM is kinda lacking the hardware to motivate developers, I think. Raspberry Pi generally has good support for server stuff, but I don't think you could really justify desktop use before maybe 2019 (release of rpi 4 with much faster CPU and more RAM), and Android devices are generally really locked down.

    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Never mind the absolute ocean of ARM SoCs, not to mention Apple's silicon

    [–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    What we need are more ARM PCs with UEFI and mainline Linux drivers. That way they would run a generic OS image just like an x86 PC.

    Most ARM PCs require an image built specifically for that system. That makes them a real pain the ass to work with.

    [–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    This is why I gave up on a really amazing ARM device that I wanted to use as a router. I ended up having to buy an Intel-based mini PC simply because I didn’t have more time to invest in creating and burning random disk images to SD cards and USB flash drives.

    [–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    If the SOC makers want their hardware to be popular for longer, they really need to add mainline kernel support.
    I looked at them as a tinkering platform. But I don't want to buy something which is probably abandoned in a few months.

    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

    They don't give a shit about hobbyists. We don't give them contracts worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

    [–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

    Those SoCs usually have one distro with a patched out of date kernel and overall lacking support of upstream drivers to install an off the shelf distro.

    Arm devices are notoriously closed. Apple silicon is an extreme example, where it only works thanks to reverse engineering the HW.

    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    And each of these SoCs requires people, ideally the manufacturer, to actually put in the work to make the hardware work on Linux. So many SBCs with severely outdated kernels ...

    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    I suppose ARM really missed the mark by not establishing a universal power framework.