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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The US absolutely needs more and better trains. But also, the US has large areas with no population. That's why when you look at electoral maps you need to control population density.

Even with a high quality rail system with support for populated areas of the US the map would still have large gaps and wouldn't be nearly as full as the EU map.

Simply putting two maps side by side and saying "this one bad" isn't great. Yes, it's absolutely bad, but for the exact reasons this map shows.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, but excluding entire states is ridiculous.

[–] cashsky@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. Every state has a major population hub. Excluding major cities is pretty bad. Except Wyoming. No one fucking lives in Wyoming. Why are they even a state...

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

In the vague defense of Wyoming and the other great planes states, quite a lot of their population growth was hindered or outright shrank due to the dust bowl which they haven't recovered from. It's kinda like how Russia goes through a population dip every 20 years or so due to the sheer number of people who died during WW2.

[–] droans@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

South Dakota only has two cities with populations over 50,000.

[–] cashsky@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Another state that shouldn't exist

[–] grammerly_dave@lemmings.world 3 points 2 months ago

Is it? There are entire states with populations less than that of major cities.

[–] PumpUpTheJam@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah where's my train to Hawaii?!

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

You got me there.

[–] hayvan@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago

US also has the advantage of being one big federation with established standards bodies and a federal budget. A train that goes Between Belgium, Netherlands, Germany has to pass through 3 different electrical standards (yes, they are very different), 2 traffic regulations (left or right side), and 3 signalization standards. And they make it work.