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Did no one actually listen to the entire clip? Or, are y'all seriously just reacting to the quote in the headline?
I listened to it before I posted it, and she's trying to dance around the subject, trying to filter her words so to not offend the Zionist trash she's pandering to while sounding neutral.
I think you're hearing what you want to hear. It seemed pretty clear when I listened to her, that she's saying there's a missed opportunity right now to distinguish the left's perspective on this subject from the right's. At present the right is the only side talking about this, so they are the ones framing the narrative...and they are disingenuously taking the moral high ground, while those on the left are being framed as the anti-Semites.
What's worse, is that online, the left keeps calling everyone "Zionists", without adding any nuance to their position...which really does make them sound like the ones that have an ignorant position on this subject. Think about it...what do you call someone who lumps everyone into a certain category, whether it fits or not, and labels them with a hostile pejorative?
It kind of seems like you are proving her point about the left's messaging, and you're upset with her for calling you out on it.
Bullshit we call zionists zionists, we call non zionist none zionists. She is sympatizing with a genocidal state
She just keeps beating around the bush ain't nobody got time for that
She's concerned the criticism of Israel could give antisemites a platform, if the current political scene does not provide a good framing of Israel criticism. I agree it was a politicians answer though
The well deserved criticism of Israel that Israel continues to do nothing about it. Benjamin Netanyahu has been formally indicted and stands trial for corruption, yet he has manipulated his Government to stay in power for an undemocratically long amount of time. So let's call it what it is, he's a dictator. And he's having to use military might to remain in power. He's having to use consistent fear of invasion to remain in power.
Let's look pass the millions of innocent people he's killed, the children, the women, the elderly, he has slaughtered. Let us look solely at the objective which is, that man has clung to power long outside the rule of law established would have allowed him to remain in power. If it walks like a duck, if quacks like a duck, and it bites the shit out of everyone like duck, then it's likely a dictator using religious identity to hide behind.
People are concerned that antisemitism might get a platform. But look at the demonstration the Jewish people are giving for this "exemplar" of the Judaism state. The religion manifest as a Governing body of it's people. Like if your friend was taking you to "this great restaurant" and you get there and there's people stumbling out of it and shitting their pants and the whole place looks like a hurricane hit it. I mean you're going to be thinking twice about your friend's recommendation. And then when you look it all over and go "I don't think I want to eat here" they reply with "WELL YOU'RE JUST BEING ANTISEMITIC!" Well then, who fucking is pushing who away?
It's nobody's but Israel's to fix. The US ain't the fucking PR team for foreign nations. And it's stupid to think it ought to be. All it has done so far for the United States to step up for Israel is to make the US look like an idiot. "Oh no, Israel would never bomb a school..." And then we're watching videos of them doing exactly that. And then that just makes the US look like a fucking idiot.
If Israel is concerned about their bad image, I wonder what they could possibly do about it? I don't know, maybe address the despot in power at the moment? That's the thing. The US is seeing their own dictator trying to rise up and how awesome that's going for them. So then they look at Israel and how freely their despot runs around, we know the game. He's running around freely because the majority of the population is now blown out Likud, the Israeli MAGA elites basically.
Netanyahu is getting his hall pass on the Jewish equals rich fuckheads that keep saying "oh no we are here to save the little guy!" All the while they pop their data centers, take our electricity, take our water, fuck our trade, fuck our farmers with that trade, fuck our grocery prices, fuck our gasoline prices, tear down our education, tear down our hospitals, and so on. MAGA is Likud, that's who they are patterned after. And we see what MAGA is doing for all of us and how hard we have to push back, to the point they fucking shoot people in the back of head in the middle of the Streets here in the United States. So when Netanyahu walks so freely around, we here in the US know, 90% of the Israeli population that permits that and there's little to no push back in that nation. Yeah, they are holding up someone running a nation who should be in prison right now.
You don't even need to consider the massive genocide that Israel has done so far. That country has abandoned every single principal the United States ought to stand for. A country ruled by law, where all are judged the same, where elections matter, and the people's voices are heard. Israel does this shit to themselves. If they are that concerned, maybe start with some political reforms (that they entirely control) so that they look less like a dictatorship and more like this so called Democracy they keep saying they are.
It's not up to anyone else but Israel to deal with their image. If they want to be the Jewish ethnostate, if they want to be what people think of when someone thinks Jews, then it's on THEM to deal with the fallout from the fact that their government is 100,000% completely fucked at the moment. And is being ran by a criminal who is being kept in power by rich elites and fear. And you know, it's something that the United States is getting to see firsthand, so our appetite for other nations doing it gets reduced down a bit. See MAGA hurts the Israelis the most. Because there's only so much Trillionaires running the nation that common people from all walks of life are willing to put up with, no matter their political affiliation. See if it was all just in Israel with the Likud, we'd have the room for it on our plate. But since MAGA has come in and started showing everyone how amazing greedy fucksticks run things, we've got a bit less room now.
Another dumb feddit.org user. Being preoccupied that a genocidal state is losing support is what would mske more peoole antisemetic. The fsct thst you equate israel to jews make you the antisemite here
You are mean and i dont appreciate bullies.
Be nice or be gone.
You seem to appreciate bullies when they are committing genocide...
Fuck off. I will be rude to zionist supporters apologist
Enlighten us. What kind of context would make her ststement not disgusting
What exactly makes what she said disgusting to you? She's simply saying that the real anti-Semites are the ones framing the narrative around Israel right now, and making the left look bad in the process. If we don't step up our game, and start distinguishing ourselves from that narrative, we are going to lose this debate.
She is preoccupied that a state acting like nazis are losing support. Fuck off with your bullshit. This opportunistic scum is giving a bad image to the left
No. She's preoccupied with the idea that we (the left) are failing to properly capitalize on the fact that a state acting like Nazis are losing support. This should be the perfect time for us to fill that void with something better...but instead, folks like Tucker Carlson and Laura Loomer are the ones stepping up to do that.
She literally said i am preoccupied that israel is losing global support with that bullshit she give more letigimacy to tucker who is a known whit supremacist. Stop making dumb excuses and fuck off
Oh. Ok. So, you didn't actually listen to what she said past the first few sentences then. And you didn't even really listen to those, either. You just latched onto the first sentence and then ignored everything else.
She said i'm preocupied that israel which is a genocidal state currently in process of exterminating palestinians is losing global support. The rest of what she said do not make her comment any less disgusting because the only way to stop genocide is to israel to really lose support of the western leaders.
I mentionned tucker so your claim that i didn't listen to her full statement is false. By talking about how we should listen to the perspective of zionazis she is helping actually helping tucker
The video kept stopping but after a few retries I got through it. It would be helpful to have a transcript. Anyway, I wasn't impressed.
Welcome to the Lemmytubes, where headlines are all 90% of us read - but don’t talk about how headlines are worded, or you’ll get a stern defense of the journalism profession!
She said those exact words. None of what she said after that make her statement less disgusting