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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Fauci did actually say at one point that masks don't work against COVID and could actually make you more likely to catch it, which was a lie intended to avoid a rush on masks that would lead to a shortage for healthcare workers (after Trump gutted the emergency stockpiles). This whole debacle is a perfect demonstration of why it's unethical to deceive the public even if you think it's justified. Whatever temporary benefit might have come from it is vastly outweighed by the long term harm of destroying trust. Anti-mask people could literally point to clips of Fauci on 60 minutes saying masks don't work.

The standard lib response is to either deny that it happened at all or to make some vague reference to "the science changed." I'd be fascinated to see what specific scientific study at the time showed masks were ineffective at combatting a respiratory illness, and what caused this supposed study to be discredited. The fact is there was never anything to suggest masks are ineffective. It was just a lie, prompted by shortages. Other countries, across Asia and elsewhere, immediately rolled out masks because they obviously work and they didn't gut all their emergency services.

It is of course pretty much impossible to express any sort of rational criticism of any of this without being lumped in with the crazies, but it was a significant deception that really convinced me the US is FUBAR. Even the scientific institutions have been corrupted. Of course, now we have RFK Jr. so at this point it's very obviously a clownshow regardless.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

What I heard about masks (not from Fauci) was that they don't at all prevent you from catching COVID, but they do help prevent you from spreading COVID.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The other part of that is, maybe they are not 100% effective at stopping you catch it, but they may provide SOME protection, especially when coupled with social distancing, and everyone wearing (stopping you from spreading).

And, what is 100% not going to stop the spread, is wearing nothing.

This doesn't even get into slowing the spread so hospitals don't become overwhelmed and staff crippled by being sick and other, non COVID patients being unable tonget treatment. If grandpa has a heart attack but can't get help because the heart doc ended up with COVID, and grandpa dies, he didn't die from.COVID, but COVUD still killed him.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago

They are more effective at not spreading it but also help somewhat in not catching it. A sneeze can carry the virus a very long distance without a mask, and a mask can provide a barrier but having contact isn't great even with a mask.

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds like an everyone but me problem!

/s

Really though, I do have a friend who would take it that way. His take was "vaccines won't stop this from existing, so why bother?" Slowing the spread, lowering the risk, and hindering the symptoms meant nothing at the peak of the pandemic.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Absolutely crazy. That friend needs help with logical thinking.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Probably because it causes people to touch near their nose to adjust the mask.

It's like the people in super markets wearing gloves only to reach into their pocket to get their phone. Covid gets on gloves, gloves touch phone, person touches phone with no gloves when they get outside. Gloves did basically nothing but it doesn't mean gloves cannot help.