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I realize posting Contrapoints is almost too easy at this point, but this is just too much

https://xcancel.com/ContraPoints/status/1986532693962527027

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[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Stop fucking insulting me, what's wrong with you? I'm literally just asking you to answer a single yes or no question because I've seen this behavior before and I'm pretty confident how it's going to go, which is that after I sit through an hour of his bullshit about Platner to find where he says the thing I present him saying the thing and then you do exactly what I describe above, which is rejecting the significance of it, meaning it was a waste of time. But no, deigning to do that wouldn't be a power move, wasting even more of my time while slinging absolutely horseshit accusations at me is a power move, even when I directly and immediately refute some of your claims with evidence. When I did give you evidence, you ignored it, almost like I have a reason for anticipating this. It doesn't matter that he's an opportunist, he's Your Guy and you can use his Palestine advocacy to shield him from any criticism and smear his critics.

It's so fucking tiresome that people can't have a basic level of consideration and there's just this miserable posturing and shit-slinging instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woPJcVNBiyQ

17:38, 1:14:35 Here's the tepid version he had when the story broke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf2fD21fLK8

3:34, and I expect you will disagree even more with my view on this one but 11:03. He also says similar stuff somewhere around 30 mins about "cancel culture" arguments in relation to the news panel, though he is obviously a bit ambivalent here again. Here he overall makes a much stronger statement.

Obviously Hasan does not like the Nazi tattoo, he does not like Nazis, etc. etc. but he is still casting it as being a clearly good thing that libs are willing to overlook seeming to be a Nazi because of economic populism. This is a catastrophically bad line and he perhaps he's too stuck in his specific manner of being "I just want healthcare, man" internet brain-broken to see the problem, but Platner's success here would only demonstrate the viability of Strasserism, or maybe people on this board would find a term like "social chauvinism" (in the sense Lenin wrote about) more useful as a description, i.e. socialism distorted by chauvinism.

Hasan's arguments about how it's good that Platner can succeed despite some of what's on his Reddit account is true (though I would disagree if the thing about effectively disobeying orders to keep using explosives in densely-populated areas was a real vector of attack, you shouldn't be able to shrug off that but Platner doesn't even need to), but bearing a Nazi symbol on your chest for 20 years and lying about never knowing what it meant until the oppo dump and even then insisting that it merely "looks like" a Nazi symbol (e.g. 42:54 in the second video) means it is clearly the less reasonable interpretation to say he's just a dopey person who nonetheless takes the issue of fascism seriously.

My overall stance is that, for the left to be able to survive, it does need to be able to accept people changing, but Platner has proven that he is some type of horribly bad actor and needs to be shunted to prevent coopting, whether he is personally even capable of doing such a thing or not (and I don't believe he's an "op" or anything of the sort, I think he's just a chauvinistic fool).

Now please prove me right and move the goalpost to "what Hasan was explicitly outlined as saying is something that was never meaningful evidence, actually," and you were just disingenuously fucking with me. If you gave a shit, why not respond to the opportunist thing that you immediately misrepresented and then ignored? Why demand evidence that you're about to reject anyway when I already told you what it was? Do you just get off on me having to sit through over two hours of stream footage to retrieve this nonsense? You could have just said "no" at some point over the past two replies and it would have been much better.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, looks like you finally watched the stream and despite the paragraphs of copium and post hoc rationalizations you typed out, you seem to have realized how unfounded your smear was, cool

Maybe next time don't jump immediately to the worst accusations possible because other leftists have differing theories and interpretations about a character as bizarre and confusing as Platner

Like for instance imagine some other leftist accused you of being a Zionist AIPAC shill who wants Platner's opponent to win or some shit, see how uncharitable and out of pocket an accusation like that would be. So maybe don't bludgeon other leftists with a similar uncharitable vibe

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just keep behaving like a condescending prick and you'll convince yourself eventually. I had seen these streams before and more, I was speaking from my own interpretation of what I saw him say on my own and he said what I said he would say, that it's cool that libs will apparently support someone who they have more reason than not to believe is a genuine fascist if he promises to make the trains run on time.

I agree that that's nothing like how you represented my claim, but that's because you've been pretending I said this or that completely different thing from square one and I'm not responsible for that shit. You've just been lining up imaginary targets to knock down.

With regard to charity, shut your fucking mouth. You've been constantly misrepresenting me for the sake of cute little sanctimonious dunks because your parasocial hero was in danger. You aren't wise or a bigger person, you're just an asshole who keeps on insisting on being one no matter how much I ask you to act like a human being for one fucking comment. God, how tragic it would be for me to ever encounter someone with an "uncharitable vibe" instead of the paragon of intellectual integrity that you've chosen to be.