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[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, as a fatty who genuinely hopes to get to the EU one day, I pray they don't do that. But for unvaccinated folk? Unless it's for a legitimate medical reason, they absolutely should.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They've already started limiting who can get certain vaccines like COVID in the US, that would just create another way to keep people in the country. Creating a vaccine tourism industry would be smart though; discount vacations under the guise of "being under medical observation" for a few days if you're getting vaccinated.

[–] Reyali@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Small note: in the end, access to COVID vaccines has not been limited. There was swirl around this that made it seem like they would be, but then the CDC landed on guidance that basically boils down to, “it’s an individual’s choice with the guidance of their healthcare provider.”

I was livid about the swirl because I am an immunocompromised person while my partner is not, and the initial guidance implied he would not have access to the vaccine, despite living with me.

I want everyone who can get vaccinated to do so, and so it’s important to me to stop the perception that anyone is restricted from accessing it.

[–] Jumpropegazing@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, the point is that they're limiting it by saying that its up to an individual and their professional because that gives leeway for insurance companies to choose not to cover the vaccine by having their own doctors argue against it.

And then you would have to take them to court to get them to actually pay which never happens majority of the time so by default peoples vaccinations are generally a lot less likely to continue being covered. Many people that could get the vaccine free before are either losing coverage soon or are only being guaranteed coverage through 2026 with no plans on after.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. I was told up front if insurance denied it I would be paying about $200-$300.

[–] Jumpropegazing@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

yea its horrible even in canada ive heard about the scariness of it all, and similar things are happening with other vaccines for children its absolutely fucked

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is that in every state, though? I thought some states and some companies were following anti-vaxxer nonsense and demanding that people under a certain age (65?) had to have some precondition.

[–] Reyali@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, this summarizes the latest guidance:

On September 19, 2025, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to change what had been a universal COVID-19 vaccine recommendation (except for HHS’ recent change for those under age 18) to “shared clinical decision-making”, including for those 65 and older. For those under 65, ACIP added that the assessment should include “an emphasis that the risk-benefit of vaccination is most favorable for individuals who are at an increased risk for severe COVID-19 disease and lowest for individuals who are not at an increased risk, according to the CDC list of COVID-19 risk factors.” These recommendations, should they be adopted by the CDC Director, mean that all individuals are recommended to have an individual assessment and interaction with a health care provider to determine whether getting a COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for them. If that determination is made, insurers should cover the vaccine at no-cost, although it is possible that some consumers may face challenges. (source)

So the change is that it’s no longer routinely recommended for everyone, but it’s supported if the patient and healthcare professional agree. Simplicity of access varies and some states have mandated that a pharmacist qualifies to make this decision, while others haven’t, but as long as you don’t have a doctor who is anti-vax, you should be able to get one.

More info from the CDC here about what “shared clinical decision-making” means.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I'm pretty sure my state (Colorado) took special measures to not even require some "precondition" that you or your doctor have to make up. Last I looked, in Colorado, at least with certain vendors, you don't even have to lie and say you are overweight, etc., and you can just go to Walgreen's, Krogers, etc...and get the vaccine, although you probably (?) have to pay for it?

While I have zero problem with lying because a corrupted government came along and required it, I don't know with 100% certainty that insurance companies won't use that against me later, so for that reason alone, I'd rather not make up some phony precondition.